Stabbing while PC's are engaged

Vurek · Post by **Vurek** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:58 pm

Is going to be a massive problem.

With fixes to dodge, especially noticeable middle end/lower end dodging %, I am missing 50%ish on lower end dodgers, and then when I miss they can easily flee off allowing for easily easily unavoidable fleestabs, when I worked hard to build their fleelag to finnaly land a damn bash.

I'm all for dodge finnaly getting some balance, but the ability to start a running stab timer on a player Engaged on another PC is going to make kinslayer merely a fleestab powerhouse again.

And, not to mention, if the lower end dodgers are dodging this well, I can't even imagine if Nico's/Lith's 100+ db sets are affected. Jesus I won't even be able to bash zerk naked with 157 ob :/

Vurek · Post by **Vurek** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:03 pm

Target was wearing this:

You get a pair of thick leather hunting boots.
You get a pair of cream colored breeches.
You get a leather covered targe.
You get a gleaming sapphire dagger.
You get a black ring.
You get a pair of thick boarhide gloves.
You get a leather wristband.
You get a leather wristband.
You get a black leather belt with a silver buckle.
You get a pair of gold-embroidered silk sleeves.
You get a pair of tough leather shoulder pads.
You get a thick green knit tunic.
You get a shadow-gray cloak.
You get a wolfhide hood.
You get a sparkling green earring.
You get a sparkling green earring.
You get a necklace of precious emeralds.
You get a small golden chain.
You get a golden Fal Dara keep gate key.

He dodged 4/10 bashes.

I have 150ish ob zerk

Seems pretty balanced to me, might be too much in dodges favor, but the fleestab thing is going to be bloody killer with the bash lag.

Anthrax · Post by **Anthrax** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:05 pm

Vurek fleestabbing is the only way to stab a basher atm. Getting rid of being able to run a timer on and engaged target would be pointless. And if you are referring to me and Zorg about not being able ot bash at all...YOU ARE AN IDIOT. You missed one or two bashes on me. I went northern zones and you landed every bash. No 50% shit your talking about. Learn what the fuck your talking about.

Anthrax · Post by **Anthrax** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:06 pm

And bash lag is like 3-4 freaking pulses. You might be able to flee off in that amount of time with minimum flee lag. You cant get stabbed in that unless its a fleestab.

Chase · Post by **Chase** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:20 pm

Anthrax wrote:Vurek fleestabbing is the only way to stab a basher atm.

I dont't get most stabber's mentality. Just because most stabbers cannot find a non-spamming human, then its alright for them to fleestab? Its not their fault that they are stopping your skill (spamming). No reason to say "well hes too good and he stop me, so I should just fuck him over because I can't find him when hes not expecting it."

Viral · Post by **Viral** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:39 pm

Yeah its completely possilble to prevent a fleestab by spamming k dark or human whenever the one person attempts to flee. And fleestabs are also not as common because there are plenty more bricks than before. As you saw when Vurek posted when Anthrax bricked in that fleestab instance.

Trin · Post by **Trin** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:08 pm

fleestabbing is the only way to stab a basher atm.

Not true...not true at all. even me, who isn't a very good stabber, got more kills just stabbing people who thought they were safe than flee stabbing.

The key is to make them think you have run inside and aren't coming back out. So many times people will sit at a patty or somewhere just chatting(whining/talking about how uber they are) and if you can find them bam! they're stabbed.

Viral · Post by **Viral** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:11 pm

Yeah but that takes time Trin!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:23 pm

When you fight two people there has to be some type of risk.

Vurek · Post by **Vurek** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:56 pm

Is a risk simply those 2 players fleestabbing? Is that a risk?

Both of those boys could have easily have engaged me and meleed.

And, anthrax, you are a fuckin idiot. I went back through log, you dodged 4/10 bashes, and you dodged 2/3 zerk bashes.

So don't be a fuckin idiot, that's damn close to 50% for having the shitty set you had, with me wielding a 17 lb 150 ob zerk axe.

Any smart stabber will learn when they can stab, and will take their times to do it, and just like Trin said, when they least expect. That's how a stabber should be, or if people still think stabbers should be melee gods, then hell, why don't we just delete warrior/ranger classes then.

3-4 pulse bash lag is perfect, and if you reason that the increase in BRICKING is the justification for a brilliant tactic such as fleestabbing, you are beyond stupid. I just don't understand it, if any of you little flee stabbers whine about bricking, you shoulda used knife when it went bad for me. 28 bricks in a row in one night. Yah, beat that. Oh, and those weren't fleestabs either. Back then we didn't have engage on target while PC's were actually battling, thus I would actually participate in melee.

Honestly, if noone even cares or even notices that this will cause problems, then, well, I'll just do the best I can and bite the bullet, I'll take all you stabbers to hell with me if I have to