FADES

[Evilina]

Stop giving him an audience Nyg, ignore works best vs extremist.

[Norum]

math: IT'S SO EXTREMEEEE1111111!!!!!!!!!111!

[Nyoga]

Oh and you forgot Ogiers and Dreadlords

[Chase]

I would use the same argument about BM's bonuses giving them such a high bash rating they are almost guaranteed to win a tied bash every single time.

Bash Landing Rates

Chase has a 20% higher chance of winning tied bashes vs me (I am using abs and Rhilor)
Chase has a 15% higher chance of winning tied bashes vs Nyoga (Nyg is using combo and master wpn)

I would be happy with a 50/50 chance of landing a bash.

My above argument could be completely wrong, I am right a lot and wrong even more.

It would be a valid argument. IF we had such a bonus.

The only bonus I have that affects bash landing is postures, which give me +5 ob if I am set offensive. Oh, and I have hamstring. Which I rarely use anymore unless I am just not landing at all. I hardly think that is the reason for these random percentages you are throwing out there.

The reason I bash so well is because I have great BMI, plus my master weapon is two handed while most others are one-handed. I chose two handed because no bash malus, yet I have worst defense than most.

[Nyoga]

Those are the exact numbers fogel gave us, Chase.

As it stands our bonuses depend on us being grouped or having a high pool of shadow points.

This is what I've argued to have removed. If the above is removed, then I will be happy. And yes, I would sacrifice our insane mobility for it. But as it stands with the way we are set up now, I will not advocate downing our mobility until you throw us another bone.

I didn't remort to be forced to have a group in order to get bonuses. I remorted alone, I want to be able to use my remort alone.



Edit: I also have a very good bmi, above average so... yeah.

[Chase]

So the problem is not the bonuses, it is that my character is a better basher. I have a two handed weapon so I probably should bash better than Nyoga. Plus I have 20 strength with my ter'angreal. Evilina's setup is abs, and since I have dodge it would kind of make sense I win in a bash off. Yet Evilina can bash probably the highest % on any dodger.

And I have 38 BMI

[Nyoga]

Chase has a 20% higher chance of winning tied bashes vs me (I am using abs and Rhilor)



you should not have a higher chance of winning a tied bash against evilina lol. My weapon is 1 pound heavier than yours. I have 1 less ob than you. I have 4 more db than you. The tied bash should NOT be higher for you than me. If anything it should be exactly even. My bmi is enough to counter the rest as well too.

[Chase]

I still don't understand what we are even arguing about. So what? Game mechanics let me do it. It isn't some blademaster bonus like you are trying to spin it. Lets just change it to "Chase wins bash offs more, down him?"

And you have a one handed weapon. Like I said before- a malus.

[Nyoga]

Chase. Nobody EVER said down blademasters. I've never even thought to down BM's much less be vocal about it. You aren't even listening to the point at all.

[Chase]

I was more talking about how my bashing landing % is somehow indicative of fades inabilities in 1 v 1. Imms have stated from the beginning that fades were supposed to be leaders and group oriented. Why not ask them to make a berserker or something comparable to a 1v1 fighter and have that. I would still take the fade honestly.

[Evilina]

Why not ask them to make a berserker or something comparable to a 1v1 fighter and have that.

That sounds like a fun idea.