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Lamgwin
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Post by Lamgwin »

what is your purpose in pking?
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i love to play the game and i come on to play. while i'm on, MOST of the time i'm actually doing something. but what about having bathroom breaks, or HAVING to leave for just a couple minutes? the imms refuse to address this issue, even saying it to my face. it's ridiculous to have to wait for no quit to leave, then spam to rent just so you can be safe for 5 minutes. i can also say that i consider all this and in my career here, i've never killed someone afk/ld knowingly. ever. most of you can't say that.
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Well, this could be fixed by showing titles, so you can go to head room and type: 'change title IS AFK NO KILLY' or somesuch. then if someone hit they would see title and if they kill, it would be knowingly.
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nicotine has already admitted to killing afk people knowingly. just read everything that's he's written and you can see that he's absolutely fine with killing someone afk.

you're defending someone who says he is fine with killing afk people.
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Kathryn wrote:but what about having bathroom breaks, or HAVING to leave for just a couple minutes? the imms refuse to address this issue, even saying it to my face. it's ridiculous to have to wait for no quit to leave, then spam to rent just so you can be safe for 5 minutes.

What if there was an AFK command that would teleport you to a peaceful area for 3-4 minutes, only available on a 2 hour cooldown or so and only useable when you're above 50% health?

I think something like that may be a viable solution.
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Kathryn wrote:Wow. I'm very disappointed in you landor. that was quite obviously very kiss arse of you towards nico. I don't particularly like lamgwin but he's right in this case. I like nico to a point but he's one of the worst people as far as killing afk/ld goes. I've known him since he started playing so I'm well aware of his play style. while he has skill, he still reports to low base tactics more often than not. and imms cater this mud towards allowing ppl to not be able to afk, period. this thread makes me laugh
i really don't understand why your disappointed Kathryn. Honestly you really have to look at from nicotines point of view, if you come to a room with an enemy in it (like syrik found out) you can't see there titles so tell me how its nicotines falt for not magicly knowing the lamgwin was afk? and lamgwin saying that he should of known from him not reacting to the door opening he could of just thought it was another human, he stated there wasnt any pk so what reason would he have for reacting to a door without knowing there was a dser around?? im not being a kiss arse im just so sick to death of people whining and bitching about dieing from their own stupidity. 1, if he had to go afk why did he do it in a pk known city? 2, if he wanted to afk why not just rent for safety, there wasnt pk as he stated so he wouldnt of had noquit 3, like i said in my log, if he is gunna be an idiot and afk in a pk zone then whinge and cry about getting stabbed then perhabs he should stop playing.
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Landor wrote: I really don't understand why your disappointed Kathryn. Honestly you really have to look at from nicotines point of view, if you come to a room with an enemy in it (like syrik found out) you can't see there titles so tell me how its nicotines falt for not magicly knowing the lamgwin was afk? and lamgwin saying that he should of known from him not reacting to the door opening he could of just thought it was another human, he stated there wasnt any pk so what reason would he have for reacting to a door without knowing there was a dser around??
simple, when a door opens and no one comes in that's visible, you either think it's a same sider sneaking in to do something, or a trolloc sneaking in to do something. either way someone is trying to kill you and you react to it.

secondly, i was chatting on the mud and cooking at the same time. i'm not going to run to rent or to a different city just because i need to check/mess with my food.

nicotine has played with me long enough and knows that i react quick enough to know that if i didn't move or shut the door, or engage, then i was afk.
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i'm 99% positive that nico knew he wasn't there. we've all been here years, we know how it works. you, on the other hand, are still very knew and don't know other players like we do. hell i'm not even fond of lamgwin, i'm just voicing my opinion about the afk thing.
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Lamgwin wrote:secondly, I was chatting on the mud and cooking at the same time. I'm not going to run to rent or to a different city just because I need to check/mess with my food.
That statement is a good example of why I think the reason behind you saying you're AFK makes some difference. How am I supposed to know if you're just chatting on the mud (not paying attention) or cooking your food (away from keyboard) during my stab timer? Just because I've pk'd you before doesn't mean you don't make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes. Maybe you didn't see the door opening because you had just checked your score or stats and it showed up as the top line and left your screen fast, who knows.
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it's simple, if i had been chatting, all i need to do is hit enter, then hit west and enter. since i didn't move, i wasn't there.

also, hitting score or stat won't make the door being opened message disappear off of the screen.

and like i've already pointed out, go back and read all of nicotine's responses. it's blatantly evident that he doesn't care if you're afk or not, he will kill you. so this argument in regard to how does he know if i'm really there means nothing.
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What I dont understand is why some people are trying to defend being able to defend going afk anywhere so vehemently. Its not like YOU don't know that there is always a chance of dieing when you go afk. You are simply complaining about a feature of the game that cannot and will not change.

You now have two things you need to do to save any respect you may have left. 1, stop complaining, you are embarrassing yourself. 2, you need to learn when and where to afk. I afk on average 5 times a log in when I play this mud. And although I know there is a chance of death, I do things that REDUCE that greatly. I wait to afk till after humans are all dead and stuck in the circle for timeout, hangout in clan-rent, or randomly sit behind a room that require insanely high pick.
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in the circumstance of when i was killed afk i was the only person on lightside, there was only one person on darkside. said person was not around when i went afk, i went afk in the most safe room in said zone. what's your point?
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My first kill I got in the middle of group pk on a rogue. Cammori and Kathryn (I think it was her) were in a room with a door+mobs. I opened the door, they didn't do anything, blicked cammori (they were talking) and then we doored kathryn. Sometimes you just miss the door boing opend. :P
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that wouldn't have been me.
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Post by Galnor »

What do people think about some sort of AFK flag? It'd do nothing but show [AFK] in your title on who, whois, and in your room, even cross race.
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sounds good to me, however could we make it where if you enter kill xxx, charge xxx, stab xxx, bash xxx, or channel xxx the afk flag goes away? this way someone can't sit with an afk flag, wait for someone to come in room, then stab/bash/channel said person who thought i was afk?
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on second thought, make it where moving out of the room removes the flag, and when the flag is on you can't kill, start a bash, stab, or channeling timer. this way people can't abuse it, you'd have to leave a room first before being able to engage in any way. but also make it where if someone engages you then your flag goes away, this way someone can't hit you in a door and you can't bash, stab, channel or anything to get out.
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Or have it go away after any command is entered, broadcasting "Lamgwin is no longer AFK" to everyone in the room upon return. After all, if you are AFK then you clearly can't enter any commands.
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fogel just occam's razored the shit out of me.
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Post by Chase »

I think this is kind of a stupid thread.. If you AFK where you can get stabbed, your problem. Make a room no-stab (no just no hide) so that people can run to if they have no-quit. Otherwise, just go to garrison or dump people... Not that hard.

Killing someone who may be afk is perfectly fine if you are a stabber, how could you know what they are doing?? If they really are afk, like out of the room, then they are prob in a safe room. But if you brick, and they do not respond, then its obvious they are afk so leave them alone..
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if you have no quit, you can't go anywhere that you can't not get stabbed at?

also, it appears garrison was finally fixed in the sense that it doesn't send you to fal moran anymore. hurray.
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and no one has come up with any form of legitimate argument on how they would assume that someone in a city head with the door closed is actually there if they aren't resting to regen hps. point being that nicotine knew i was afk.
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the afk flag is a good idea actually. glad to see immortal input on this issue.
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Post by Evilina »

The afk flag is a bad idea and would be easily abused, someone gets low hps from pk, runs to agel and hits the afk button and poof they should now be immune to dying? That circumvents the noquit concept.

I've died afk in agel to a blick, it wasn't like the stabber bricked and came back for another try, it happens from time to time.

Our system has worked for years and years, the only possible thing I might change is allowing crossrace to see titles.
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Evilina wrote:The afk flag is a bad idea and would be easily abused, someone gets low hps from pk, runs to agel and hits the afk button and poof they should now be immune to dying? That circumvents the noquit concept.
It would only display a message, mainly as a way to resolve the issue of titles not showing up cross-race. Nothing would stop you from killing the player who is flagged as AFK.
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