killing naked people

[Dariec]

Just a forewarning, if you play darkside, and if you are naked and coming for your eq, i will kill you. I'm just letting you know.

Why? I've been killed now 5 times since friday naked while trying to get eq back. people who've done this include crunch, razhak, volgar, turky, skreem, asylum, otar, nicotine, kombat, erurk, (erurk has done it 3 times). So this isn't an attack against all of you who are new, but pk return has been a given charity in this game for a long time, but when you kill someone naked and you see they are naked(which has happened every time by at least one of the people killing me) then you know you should back off.


So i'm just letting you know you are all fair game. End of line.

[Volgar]

And on the other side of the coin, if you're naked you shouldn't go running into the middle of pk...

And after i posted this, Dariec switched to his DG and attacked me and chased me north.

This is what happened from my angle:


Approaching the Fal Dara Gates
Here are the mighty gates of Fal Dara which have withstood battle after
countless battle against the minions of the Dark One. Leading away from the
gates, a road travels toward the east, bordered by the Shienaran Forest. The
road is rutted from traveling wagons and horses.
[ Exits: n e s ]
You see fresh tracks of Dariec leaving >>EAST>>
You see fresh tracks of a black warhorse (ridden) leaving vvSOUTHvv
You see fresh tracks of Dariec leaving >>EAST>>
You see fresh tracks of Volgar leaving ^^NORTH^^
You see fresh tracks of a black warhorse (ridden) leaving ^^NORTH^^
A tall post stands here holding a torch to create a lamp.
The corpse of Dariec is lying here.
*Dariec* is here, fighting Turky!. <<< 2vs1 against the new guy better help him!

*Jule* is here, fighting Turky!, riding a black warhorse.
Turky is sitting here.
A strong, black warhorse stands here, full of energy.

HP:Battered MV:Good >
k human
You try to blast *Dariec*'s body, but miss.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered --- Turky: Scratched>
bash
HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered --- Turky: Scratched>

*
*Dariec* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered --- Turky: Scratched>

*Jule* slices Turky's legs hard.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered --- Turky: Scratched>
-
Turky panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered --- Turky: Scratched>

Volgar steps back from the fight long enough to fire an arrow at Dariec!
*Jule* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered --- Turky: Scratched>
%
*Jule* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered --- Turky: Scratched>

*Dariec* leaves east.

HP:Battered MV:Good >

*Jule* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good >
-
The arrow flies through the air with precision and speed...
*Dariec* has arrived from the east.

HP:Battered MV:Good >

*Dariec* strikes your legs. <<< ok, he's attacking me, must have his stuff... And he's striking, spears strike, not naked fists...

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>
k human

*
Your bash at *Dariec* sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 69 out of 84 bashes (82% landed)

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>

*Jule* leaves north, riding a black warhorse.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>

You blast *Dariec*'s body into bloody fragments!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>
Dariec dodges to the side, letting an arrow fly past.
You do the best you can!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>

*Jule* has arrived from the north, riding a black warhorse.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>

*Jule* slices your feet hard.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>

*Jule* avoids being bashed by Turky who loses his balance and falls!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Battered>

You blast *Dariec*'s arms into bloody fragments!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>

*Jule* heroically rescues *Dariec*!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>
bash
HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

*Jule* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

*
*Jule* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>
- % TICK IN 5 SECONDS.

Volgar steps back from the fight long enough to fire an arrow at Jule!
Turky sends *Jule* sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>
-
*
They already seem stunned!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

The arrow flies through the air with precision and speed...

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

You blast *Jule*'s hands very hard.
Turky stings *Jule*'s feet very hard.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

An arrow misses Jule and hits the ground harmlessly.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

*Dariec* panics, and attempts to flee!
*Dariec* leaves east.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

*Dariec* has arrived from the east.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

*Dariec* strikes your shoulders.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

Dariec opens the gate.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

*Dariec* strikes your waist hard.
You blast *Jule*'s legs.
Turky stings *Jule*'s feet into bloody fragments!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>

Turky closes the gate.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Jule: Battered>
bash

*Jule* leaves north, riding a black warhorse.
Dariec opens the gate.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>
HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>

*
*Dariec* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>

Turky closes the gate.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>
- %
*Dariec* tickles your body as he strikes you.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>

Turky tries to sting *Dariec*'s waist, but he parries the attack.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>
-
*Dariec* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>

*
Your bash at *Dariec* sends him sprawling!
This session you've landed 70 out of 85 bashes (82% landed)

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Beaten>

Turky stings *Dariec*'s arms into bloody fragments!
You blast *Dariec*'s arms into bloody fragments!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Critical>
look
where
Approaching the Fal Dara Gates
Here are the mighty gates of Fal Dara which have withstood battle after
countless battle against the minions of the Dark One. Leading away from the
gates, a road travels toward the east, bordered by the Shienaran Forest. The
road is rutted from traveling wagons and horses.
[ Exits: n e s ]
You see fresh tracks of a black warhorse (ridden) leaving ^^NORTH^^
You see fresh tracks of Dariec leaving >>EAST>>
You see fresh tracks of a black warhorse (ridden) leaving ^^NORTH^^
You see fresh tracks of Dariec leaving >>EAST>>
You see fresh tracks of Dariec leaving >>EAST>>
A tall post stands here holding a torch to create a lamp.
The corpse of Dariec is lying here.
*Dariec* is sitting here.
Turky is here, fighting *Dariec*!.
A strong, black warhorse stands here, full of energy.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Critical>
Players in your Zone
--------------------
Volgar - Approaching the Fal Dara Gates
Turky - Approaching the Fal Dara Gates
You hear and smell horses in the surrounding area.

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Critical>

Volgar steps back from the fight long enough to fire an arrow at Dariec!

HP:Battered MV:Good - Dariec: Critical>

Turky stings *Dariec*'s hands into bloody fragments!
You blast *Dariec*'s legs into bloody fragments!
You receive your share of experience.
Your fame around the world has increased.
Your blood freezes as you hear *Dariec*'s death cry.
*Dariec* is dead! R.I.P.


This is his "naked" corpse:


examine corpse
You see nothing special..
When you look inside, you see:
corpse (here):
a small brass lantern
a shimmering pendant of heartstone [2]
a golden silk turban
a fur cloak, held by a silver brooch
a moderate sized backpack
a worn animal hide vest
a set of shoulder pads worked with silver
a pair of dark fur sleeves
a swordsman's belt
a black tinted wristcuff
an iron bracelet with ancient engravings
a pair of swordsman gloves
a bright red heartstone ring [2]
a delicate spear with a ruby tip
a golden engraved shield
a pair of dark cloth leggings
a pair of black tooled silver boots

[Dariec]

into middle of pk? when my corpse is 1n? and you see me loot? then roll bashes before i even wear it? and you KNOW i'm coming there to get my gear only? go back to wotmud seriously.

[Skreem]

interesting

[Wreven]

Ive not intentionally killed you nude once dont try that crap..I yell at people for doing that...

[Turky]

Just a forewarning, if you play darkside, and if you are naked and coming for your eq, I will kill you. I'm just letting you know.

Why? I've been killed now 5 times since friday naked while trying to get eq back. people who've done this include crunch, razhak, volgar, turky, skreem, asylum, otar, nicotine, kombat, erurk, (erurk has done it 3 times). So this isn't an attack against all of you who are new, but pk return has been a given charity in this game for a long time, but when you kill someone naked and you see they are naked(which has happened every time by at least one of the people killing me) then you know you should back off.


So I'm just letting you know you are all fair game. End of line.

You're an idiot. Yes, the middle of pk was 1n. Volgar and I were fighting an equipped Jule. You come out, I am spamming k human 1n. I hit you, start rolling a bash. You looted immediately, wore just about right away, and then jumped into pk.

I'm not going to stop spamming at my block because some naked human comes to loot at my block. I didn't even know you were naked when you first into the room, and I didn't have much time to figure it out, because you suck and died in seconds. You just kept trying to force the block, ate a bash, and died.

Learn to pk.

[Chase]

Learn to pk.

Don't come to this mud, claim your new, but still tell others to learn pk. This is how we have done it on this mud way before you came. We return eq because atm this a pure pk mud, where most of us don't want to spend time re-equiping. This is helpful for both sides. YOU learn to pk solo without having to call a group.

Also, this seems to be all ds. "Don't go into the middle of pk"?? DS seems to enjoy picking off naked humans. I had an alt killed yesterday when no pk was going on and it was known I was naked. When I asked why it happened, ds said to "give it a rest, dick." Seriously? You expect LS to maintain returning eq yet you don't do the same? Cammori also died and went to get his eq before pk started again and he was chased down and killed before he got to his corpse gap. This really does not matter though. If ds keeps this up then I am sure ls is going to too.

[Chase]

I didn't even know you were naked when you first into the room, and I didn't have much time to figure it out, because you suck and died in seconds.

And this too. Sorry I didn't realize you were the be all, end all of pk. If I remember correctly I was on you solo and you were fleeing around panicing until your group of 5 saved you. He sucks because he died in a round or two from being engaged naked? And you say he sucks at pk, but you yourself could not figure out that he was naked when you were obviously fragging him unbashed 100%? Yea. That makes sense.

[Dariec]

I just wanna say..... lol. That is all.

[Racyn]

We return eq

o rly

[Volgar]

Yes people get killed naked, and yes it sucks, but every time I've seen it happen it's been by mistake and the rest of the side always yells at the person who killed them, but immediately switching sides to bitch and moan about it isn't going to help things.. When you go running through PK naked don't expect to be not attacked since we will be spamming k human for the rest of the humans in the area, especially since LS stabbers seem to like to stab us when we're trying to return eq, right cammori?

[Galnor]

For the record, as a result of those of you who find it necessary to switch sides after dying to make a spectacle of it, I'm going to have to put in enforced wait restrictions. Sorry, but it's either that or zap the growing number of folks who are guilty of it.

[Felli]

http://kinslayermud.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3889

[Chase]

Yes people get killed naked, and yes it sucks, but every time I've seen it happen it's been by mistake and the rest of the side always yells at the person who killed them, but immediately switching sides to b*tch and moan about it isn't going to help things.. When you go running through PK naked don't expect to be not attacked since we will be spamming k human for the rest of the humans in the area, especially since LS stabbers seem to like to stab us when we're trying to return eq, right cammori?

Yea Volgar I totally agree, it happens during pk and its totally the fault of the person trying to get eq if they die. I have no problem with that. What I was talking about is people who kill naked people on purpose. Its obvious and won't go unnoticed.

[Evilina]

For the record, as a result of those of you who find it necessary to switch sides after dying to make a spectacle of it, I'm going to have to put in enforced wait restrictions. Sorry, but it's either that or zap the growing number of folks who are guilty of it.

Finally, for a smart guy you're kind of slow G

[Turky]

Yes, this really is like competing in the special Olympics.

Dariec:

into middle of pk? when my corpse is 1n? and you see me loot? then roll bashes before I even wear it? and you KNOW I'm coming there to get my gear only? go back to wotmud seriously.

You already died and re-entered pk once or twice. I was 1n blocking for a low human who had probably narrated. Suddenly *Dariec* arrives from the south, which sounds like someone trying to break a block to me. I didn't check your corpse, because I had no interest in looting. How was I supposed to know you were naked until you looted and wore your equipment?

Anyway, then you attacked us. You were probably coming back out to rejoin pk, but that didn't make your "I'm a victim" story sound as appealing. Is 1n scannable? It may be that you even knew I was there, spamming k human and close gate, but came anyway believing that you could loot and wear in time.

Chase:

Don't come to this mud, claim your new, but still tell others to learn pk. This is how we have done it on this mud way before you came. We return eq because atm this a pure pk mud, where most of us don't want to spend time re-equiping. This is helpful for both sides. YOU learn to pk solo without having to call a group.

I am not sure if it is your decrepit grammar or your poor thought processes that make your argument nearly indecipherable. But I'll have a go at this nonetheless.

First, the word you are seeking is "you're."

Second, you're not the boss of me now, and you're not so big.

Third, I've returned the eq from every one of my kills on this mud.

If ds keeps this up then I am sure ls is going to too.

Fifth, this isn't "us against them!" As far as I can tell, DS and LS are the same people.

And this too. Sorry I didn't realize you were the be all, end all of pk. If I remember correctly I was on you solo and you were fleeing around panicing until your group of 5 saved you. He sucks because he died in a round or two from being engaged naked? And you say he sucks at pk, but you yourself could not figure out that he was naked when you were obviously fragging him unbashed 100%? Yea. That makes sense.

Sixth, if I was panicking, then why wasn't I an easy kill? I was probably just baiting you, and was keeping you busy until my group showed up.

Anyway, were you on Chase? Are you honestly complaining that an abs trolloc with a 1h, 9lbs weapon wouldn't 1v1 someone with a full kit in unfamiliar zones when he had a group nearby? Learn to think.

Seventh, when you hit a dodger, you expect to frag them. Maybe things can be deduced in a couple of seconds by someone experienced with this MUD. The kinds of things that someone new to this MUD isn't used to looking for, and wouldn't notice immediately.

Did you ever think of that last one before you acted the jerk? Did it ever occur to you that, although I'm not new to pk, I'm new to this MUD? And did it cross your mind that maybe you've been trained to look for something unique to this MUD? Isn't it possible that just maybe all I saw was someone trying to break a block?

Keep in mind that you're arm-chair pking from a log. In reality, these things happen too fast to sit around and think about how one might deduce all kinds of things. So way to go. Attack the new guy. Try and ruin his name publicly from the start.

PS, I don't remember fighting Chase. But besides Jule, I think that nearly everyone I've fought has ended up dying. Are you bitter about something?

[Turky]

So this must be what it feels like to win. It's satisfying.

[Nyoga]

PS, I don't remember fighting Chase. But besides Jule, I think that nearly everyone I've fought has ended up dying. Are you bitter about something?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL.

Dude, i just can't stop laughing at that. One day if you grow up big you'll figure out why.

[Chase]

I am not sure if it is your decrepit grammar or your poor thought processes that make your argument nearly indecipherable. But I'll have a go at this nonetheless.

First, the word you are seeking is "you're."

Second, you're not the boss of me now, and you're not so big.

Third, I've returned the eq from every one of my kills on this mud.

Yea Turky. YOUR awesome. I honestly don't care enough about this situation to spend my time typing correct English, especially considering I was busy and therefore was in a rush. I would think that you would be able to read through my grammatical errors, but obviously I was mistaken. Logical argument on my part? You first start off your argument with a direct insult to my grammar. That right there is the logical fallacy of ad hominem. Just because my grammar was flawed does not mean my argument was. Nice try.

Second, isn't that a lyric in a song? So now the band They Might be Giants is helping you craft your argument. Very effective. I should quit now.

Third, I do not believe I was disputing whether you returned the eq from any of your pkills.

If ds keeps this up then I am sure ls is going to too.

Fifth, this isn't "us against them!" As far as I can tell, DS and LS are the same people.

I was referring to the fact that there are players that have a tendency to spend the majority of their playtime on one side. This, for once, was my fault.

And this too. Sorry I didn't realize you were the be all, end all of pk. If I remember correctly I was on you solo and you were fleeing around panicing until your group of 5 saved you. He sucks because he died in a round or two from being engaged naked? And you say he sucks at pk, but you yourself could not figure out that he was naked when you were obviously fragging him unbashed 100%? Yea. That makes sense.

Sixth, if I was panicking, then why wasn't I an easy kill? I was probably just baiting you, and was keeping you busy until my group showed up.

Anyway, were you on Chase? Are you honestly complaining that an abs trolloc with a 1h, 9lbs weapon wouldn't 1v1 someone with a full kit in unfamiliar zones when he had a group nearby? Learn to think.

Let's see.. You were probably just baiting me? So are we dealing with hypothetical situations now? How can you possibly form an argument on something that you admit that you do not remember. Very effective undermining yourself from the start.

Wouldn't learning constitute thinking? So I would have to think first. So therefore I knew how to think from the beginning. That statement made about as much sense as my grammatically impaired statements.

Seventh, when you hit a dodger, you expect to frag them. Maybe things can be deduced in a couple of seconds by someone experienced with this MUD. The kinds of things that someone new to this MUD isn't used to looking for, and wouldn't notice immediately.

Did you ever think of that last one before you acted the jerk? Did it ever occur to you that, although I'm not new to pk, I'm new to this MUD? And did it cross your mind that maybe you've been trained to look for something unique to this MUD? Isn't it possible that just maybe all I saw was someone trying to break a block?

Keep in mind that you're arm-chair pking from a log. In reality, these things happen too fast to sit around and think about how one might deduce all kinds of things. So way to go. Attack the new guy. Try and ruin his name publicly from the start.

PS, I don't remember fighting Chase. But besides Jule, I think that nearly everyone I've fought has ended up dying. Are you bitter about something?

First, you told Dariec to learn how to pk. When you say this, and maybe I am wrong in saying this, but it leads the reader to infer that you yourself know how to pk. So when you say that you were unable to recognize that he was naked, I take it with a grain of salt. As you said before, you had a one-handed, 9lb weapon. If this somehow made you inferior to my set, how can you assume you can continually break his defense unbashed? So you lean on your weapon's weakness as an argument against solo pk vs me, yet its strength is your excuse for quickly dispatching Dariec.

I am not picking on you. I was merely pointing out that you started by insulting Dariec in an attempt to undermine his argument. I guess I wrongly assumed that when you came out in this post so aggressively defending mere mention of your name, that you were not new. From experience, most new people to this mud would not be so quick to jump.

And lastly, you are new to this mud's pk system and yet you still say you have killed everyone you have come up against except Jule. So are you unfamiliar with the combat system and pked no one, or have you killed many? Which is it?

And no, I am not bitter nor have you killed me before.

[Turky]

I'm from WoT. I know how to pk. But over at WoT I haven't been in many situations where I've fought someone who is naked. In nearly every circumstance I've let them go, excepting those when they came to fight . (Surely you've killed someone after coming out of the circle before)?

Thank you for admitting that I'm awesome. I agree completely.

For someone who doesn't care about this situation very much, you sure seem to be putting a lot of effort into it.

This thread was entirely about killing naked people, and not about returning eq. So why did you even bring it up? I even return most eq on WoT, where almost no-one does it.

So were you on Chase? I'm curious. Because it seems to me that you really are upset that a poorly equipped trolloc did not 1v1 a blademaster. Can you honestly make that complaint?

Dariec wasn't in a full kit, and I had broken his defense in earlier fights. It didn't seem very odd to me, just good rolls.

The funny part of this will be when someone who doesn't "care enough about this situation" spends his time making a point by point response.

I jumped so quickly on it, because within a day of being on a new MUD some started insulting me and spreading lies about me in a PDW. Furthermore, there were some people jumping on his bandwagon. Namely you.

[Trin]

I love when people call out others grammatical errors even though they obviously know what they are saying. I guess it comes from not being able to call them a scrub.

Zerg more.

[Crunch]

This thread needs to be deleted.

And Trin, I'm pretty pissed at you for not being here when I came back to this mud. I feel abandoned :-/

[Chase]

I didn't spend that much time going point by point. It was simple picking apart the many flaws in your argument. I'll leave it at that though. I am done with this thread.

[Trin]

Blame Plague. He told me about Darkfall and I've been playing that.

[Crunch]

Plague RIP