Bash

Carwyn · Post by **Carwyn** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:22 am

This might be classified as a PDW, but something really needs to be done about bash, going from wounded to dead in one bash with sanctuary on seems a bit ridiculous to me and it makes it so you can't compete if the other side has a half-way decent basher with them.

Heritage · Post by **Heritage** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:28 am

dont get bashed eh? i land 1/10 on a fully decked out dodger...thats the trade off of playing a dg, insane dmg but crap hps

Carwyn · Post by **Carwyn** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:06 pm

Insane dmg? Are you kidding me? A bash does about 200-300 damge, and in the same amount of time I can do around 70, that does not seem balanced at all...

Chase · Post by **Chase** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:23 pm

You had quite a few on you. I've died a ton recently in heavy combo from batt to dead.. which would be like you wounded/hurt to dead. It happens to everyone.

Carwyn · Post by **Carwyn** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:14 pm

Yes it happens to everyone, all i'm saying is that 1 bash unless you have a ton of mobs on you, shouldn't be a death sentence for any setup, but as it is now, you get bashed with more than one person on you and you're taking a huge amount of damage, even in abs.

Nicotine · Post by **Nicotine** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:58 pm

I'm just confused as to how someone can bash 140 db 9 times out of 10 dismounted with a club (which should have better bash, but should not have better OB), and then not get any of the bashed hits parried.

That aside, nice job Heritage.

Heritage · Post by **Heritage** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:20 pm

I'm one lucky sob

its not the club or the bash

Crunch · Post by **Crunch** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:56 pm

Last time I was up against Targh in a full set I was beaten before I landed a bash on him...

Yup, lets down bash! Its wayyy too good.

Carwyn · Post by **Carwyn** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:42 pm

That has nothing to do with bash damage modifier...

That's top end dodge being too top end...

Dariec · Post by **Dariec** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:55 am

Bash is fine.

Top end dodge is fine.

Anything less than top end dodge is NOT fine and needs to be looked at/balanced.

Bash damage modifier is far too high, and seems to usually ignore abs %. It needs to be looked into/balanced.

Bash landing rate as it is is fine IMO. 128 db can compete against a claymore, anything less than that gets bashed nearly 100%.

140ish DB can compete against the heavy bashing weapons. Anything less than that gets bashed nearly 100%

Racyn · Post by **Racyn** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:09 pm

wen ihad my heeron i bashed agemar 5 times out o f20 its definately fine ok disucion over

Dariec · Post by **Dariec** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:14 pm

I can't even tell what that says so.... Ignorant speak?

Post by **Rhollor** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:40 pm

Sorry he got out of his cage somehow... we'll find a new lock.

Post by **Fogel** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:40 pm

I'm going to be taking an in-depth look at the combat system sometime in January and overhauling it as needed, so until then just hang in there!