This is where you all should post questions/complaints/whatever about the weaves. I won't be giving out all the information about them immediately, so please try them out for a bit. Also, don't automatically assume they should do something (like be affected by weather or something) and start spreading that rumor around.
Again, everyone should thank Fogel for putting these weaves in.
New weaves
Quicksand is rediculous honestly. Maybe the most overpowered weave ever recorded.. 
Into a Forest
The trees in the forest here are somewhat sparse, but the woods become much
thicker to the east. To the west, the trees open up, and a beaten path can be
espied, under the shadow of the Mountains of Dhoom.
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You see fresh tracks of Gestahl leaving east.
You see almost fresh tracks of Gestahl leaving west.
A black warhorse is standing here, being ridden by you.
*Gestahl* is resting here.
A small fluffy rabbit hides from predators.
HP:Beaten MV:Good >
You try to slash *Gestahl*'s arms, but miss.
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
* - % -
*Gestahl* gestures at you, and you fell yourself sinking into quicksand.
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
A small fluffy rabbit leaves east.
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
The feeling of molten lava inside of you causes your vision to blur, and the feeling quickly dissipates, but not the pain left behind.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
HP:Critical MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
f
*Gestahl* lifts his hand in your direction, and you feel the stinging pain as fire blisters your skin.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
HP:Critical MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
You panic and attempt to flee!
HP:Critical MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
w
Within the Forest
So basically, its 1 less pulse than bash, it lands 100% on any setup if weave works, and gives time for 2 big weaves. Just had Gestahl crit and die because it basically makes pking vs a channie impossible unless you are in a safe room.
Approaching the Fal Dara Gates
Here are the mighty gates of Fal Dara which have withstood battle after
countless battle against the minions of the Dark One. Leading away from the
gates, a road travels toward the east, bordered by the Shienaran Forest. The
road is rutted from traveling wagons and horses.
[ Exits: n e s ]
You see fresh tracks of a ridden mount leaving south.
You see fresh tracks of a trolloc leaving south.
A tall post stands here holding a torch to create a lamp.
A black warhorse is standing here, being ridden by you.
*Gestahl* is resting here.
...*Gestahl* glows with a bright light!
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh >
You slash *Gestahl*'s arms into bloody fragments!
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
*Gestahl* tries to strike your head, but misses.
You slash *Gestahl*'s legs hard.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
0
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
* -
*Gestahl* gestures at you, and you fell yourself sinking into quicksand.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
*Gestahl* tries to strike your legs, but misses.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
f
The last thing you see before you are consumed by a roaring fire is *Gestahl*'s smirk.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
Your fame has been diminished.
You are dead! Sorry...
Crossroads of Fate
Not going overboard, just giving examples of how powerful it is. No reason why anyone in that position, beat vs a really crit channie, should die. Especially when you dont even have time to even try a move, in this case bash.
Oh but the other weaves look great.
Into a Forest
The trees in the forest here are somewhat sparse, but the woods become much
thicker to the east. To the west, the trees open up, and a beaten path can be
espied, under the shadow of the Mountains of Dhoom.
[ Exits: e w ]
You see fresh tracks of Gestahl leaving east.
You see almost fresh tracks of Gestahl leaving west.
A black warhorse is standing here, being ridden by you.
*Gestahl* is resting here.
A small fluffy rabbit hides from predators.
HP:Beaten MV:Good >
You try to slash *Gestahl*'s arms, but miss.
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
* - % -
*Gestahl* gestures at you, and you fell yourself sinking into quicksand.
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
A small fluffy rabbit leaves east.
HP:Beaten MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
The feeling of molten lava inside of you causes your vision to blur, and the feeling quickly dissipates, but not the pain left behind.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
HP:Critical MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
f
*Gestahl* lifts his hand in your direction, and you feel the stinging pain as fire blisters your skin.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
HP:Critical MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
You panic and attempt to flee!
HP:Critical MV:Good - Gestahl: Beaten>
w
Within the Forest
So basically, its 1 less pulse than bash, it lands 100% on any setup if weave works, and gives time for 2 big weaves. Just had Gestahl crit and die because it basically makes pking vs a channie impossible unless you are in a safe room.
Approaching the Fal Dara Gates
Here are the mighty gates of Fal Dara which have withstood battle after
countless battle against the minions of the Dark One. Leading away from the
gates, a road travels toward the east, bordered by the Shienaran Forest. The
road is rutted from traveling wagons and horses.
[ Exits: n e s ]
You see fresh tracks of a ridden mount leaving south.
You see fresh tracks of a trolloc leaving south.
A tall post stands here holding a torch to create a lamp.
A black warhorse is standing here, being ridden by you.
*Gestahl* is resting here.
...*Gestahl* glows with a bright light!
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh >
You slash *Gestahl*'s arms into bloody fragments!
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
*Gestahl* tries to strike your head, but misses.
You slash *Gestahl*'s legs hard.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
0
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
* -
*Gestahl* gestures at you, and you fell yourself sinking into quicksand.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
*Gestahl* tries to strike your legs, but misses.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Critical>
f
The last thing you see before you are consumed by a roaring fire is *Gestahl*'s smirk.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
Your fame has been diminished.
You are dead! Sorry...
Crossroads of Fate
Not going overboard, just giving examples of how powerful it is. No reason why anyone in that position, beat vs a really crit channie, should die. Especially when you dont even have time to even try a move, in this case bash.
Oh but the other weaves look great.
*Gestahl* leaves west.Fogel wrote:Quicksand has been nerfed. Next!
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh >
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Before Tarwin's Gap
The tall Mountains of Dhoom loom upwards, shadowing the sky here. Nearing
Tarwin's Gap, the two seperate ridges of the mountains are now becoming more
and more visible, outlining the narrow passage of Tarwin's Gap. It is apparent
that the passage runs mostly south to north, but the entire stretch of the
passage cannot be seen due to impediments and rocks thrusting out of the walls
of the two ridges.
[ Exits: n e ]
You see almost fresh tracks of a trolloc leaving east.
You see very recent tracks of a human leaving east.
A black warhorse is standing here, being ridden by you.
*Gestahl* is standing here.
...*Gestahl* glows with a bright light!
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh >
0
You try to slash *Gestahl*'s feet, but miss.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
* - % -
*Gestahl* gestures at you, and you feel yourself sinking into quicksand.
HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
f
The feeling of molten lava inside of you causes your vision to blur, and the feeling quickly dissipates, but not the pain left behind.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
*Gestahl* tries to strike your legs, but misses.
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
f
*Gestahl* lifts his hand in your direction, and you feel the stinging pain as fire blisters your skin.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
f
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
f
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
You try to slash *Gestahl*'s hands, but miss.
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
f
*Gestahl* lifts his hand in your direction, and you feel the stinging pain as fire blisters your skin.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Gestahl: Beaten>
You panic and attempt to flee!
Maybe its just me, but that weave is still retarded. It makes playing toe to toe with a channeler fruitless because it pretty much freezes the player in the room for atleast 2 rounds for plenty of weaves. Someone else please post you experience vs it so it doesnt just seem like me complaining. If everyone else says its reasonable I won't bring it up again.
I've accounted for that, there's a minimum avoidance rate that is increased by a factor of the person's dodge bonus.Obould wrote:I'm not certain if that's the answer Fogel, That means absers will get targeted with quake.Fogel wrote:As of next reboot, I've added a saving roll to Quicksand based on the victim's dodge bonus.
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wth... quicksand is now too nerfed to be at all useful, i just tried to do it on a lion and look.
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
qs
You begin channeling the appropriate flows...
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
= =
* + - =
A huge lion tries to hit your arms, but you dodge the attack.
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
% = - +
*
Okay.
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
A huge lion tries to hit your legs, but you parry the attack.
You strike A huge lion's hands.
over 2x longer timer than bash, and it can't be used while engaged?
wtf?...
why not make it bash's equivalent with 1-2 tic longer timer and same incapacitation time?
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
qs
You begin channeling the appropriate flows...
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
= =
* + - =
A huge lion tries to hit your arms, but you dodge the attack.
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
% = - +
*
Okay.
HP:Healthy SP:Flickering MV:Strong - A huge lion: Wounded>
A huge lion tries to hit your legs, but you parry the attack.
You strike A huge lion's hands.
over 2x longer timer than bash, and it can't be used while engaged?
wtf?...
why not make it bash's equivalent with 1-2 tic longer timer and same incapacitation time?
My first thoughts before I thuroughly begin testing each weaves is a general one. Weaves that cannot be cast while engaged are comparable to stab and charge. Namely, that they should have a higher benefit than normal weaves. This thought comes about because of the weave decay. Based on what I have seen against mobs, it does not do enough damage. I would suggest upping the minimum to 50 and the maximum to 65. Even if the time it lasts all rolls the maximum damage of 65, with is still comparable to half a stab or charge, which it should be.