Losers
Losers
Edit by Galnor -Kombat, you know very well this is not the way to fix problems. Problems such as horse stab, horse bash, and non intended "features" are being worked on and will likely be in place once we implement the new release. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem Please do not let me see this again.
sorry galnor im just very peeved because all i hear on darkside is how no humans will pk and no humans pk fairly...and i bring them fair pk..heck i was alone vs the two of them with a darkfriend online..a darkfriend that wants to kill me....so instead of fighting vs me..they take out the horse and kick me ...so i left...came back same again....game crashes i come back run myself hagg get kicked and die to three....
Normally this WOULDNT make me angry but when its someone who i tried to help out and talk to because he says nobody likes me boo hoo, and i tried to tell him he isnt unliked blah blah...then he pulls stuff like this..it wouldnt be a problem if people on this game actually WANTED a fair fight but thats crap none do..siteban me i dont care...I dont plan on playing with people like this..
Normally this WOULDNT make me angry but when its someone who i tried to help out and talk to because he says nobody likes me boo hoo, and i tried to tell him he isnt unliked blah blah...then he pulls stuff like this..it wouldnt be a problem if people on this game actually WANTED a fair fight but thats crap none do..siteban me i dont care...I dont plan on playing with people like this..
I dont care that my human died....equip is easy as crap to replace on LS....but when they sit and complain about no pk outside of fd and no pk blight and i bring it and they use the lamest tactics ever to get a kill, especially when they knew i was bringing pk for them it makes me angry... hypocrites, and morons.. Im not mad at the game..this game is GREAT, and certain players make it awesome..but the certain few players make this game so unenjoyable at times that its not worth playing...and I had an immortal...sorry i cant stand descripting.
Galnor wrote:There's more to being an immortal than describing zone..and I had an immortal...sorry i cant stand descripting.
Honestly what more is there?
lvl 100 first make 10 rooms with descripts as test, make rooms in zones with descriptions
lvl 101 first make 1o rooms with mobs as test, get mob edit to create mobs
lvl 102 start writing script, which imho isnt all that easy
lvl 103 edit objects
There is very little trust given here thus Galnor, Serai, rhollor, and Zyrak are the only ones with the ability to imp things, I noticed unique creativity was kind of frowned upon, getting permission to do almost anything does not encourage creativity. Just getting the vnums to do zones took me several days per zone.
It wouldnt be so bad if there was a game plan laid out with ideas and goals to shoot for, but several times I asked after getting in trouble for creating mobs, writing script that wasnt preaproved what would you like me to do and never could get an answer.
My advice is to lay out some type of guideline with zones, ides, scripting, etc needed and allow people a little leway with their creativity and take it from there.
personally I suck at description, I suck at writing script so what more is there?
This is not a bitch nor directed at anybody so no one take this personally, these are merely my views.
...Make up your mind on whether or not you're good. You said not too long ago you were awesome at it.personally I suck at description, I suck at writing script so what more is there?
Anyway, obviously we aren't going to have random, newly raised immortals blowing mob raids... Though if you absolutely hate building, I have said that I will work with you, teaching you how to script and guiding you to be a clan immortal. I said you'd probably have to build some, just to make sure you don't run off two days after being raised. There isn't a lot of variety as far as things to work on, though there is more than just building.
Sorry, but when you have people on the boards saying they quit due to a raid done by a newly raised immortal, what do you expect? I'd be more than willing to teach people script, though... All you have to do is ask.
1. I'm adept at it, but not with your strangle version of olcGalnor wrote:...Make up your mind on whether or not you're good. You said not too long ago you were awesome at it. :lolpersonally I suck at description, I suck at writing script so what more is there?
Sorry, but when you have people on the boards saying they quit due to a raid done by a newly raised immortal, what do you expect? I'd be more than willing to teach people script, though... All you have to do is ask.
2. People will use any reason to quit when they are frustrated, how many times have people used you as the reason to quit Galnor? It's all a learning curve, people mess up but what is really important is whether it was done hatefully and abusively or not.
I still think you should put a copy of the mud up on another port and let people practice scripting and crash the mud to their hearts content.
Try my job for a week, Aj, and I bet you will give up halfway before the first week ends. I'm not going to explain things to you that you won't understand, becuase you have not seen it through my eyes.
Things are not as simple as you seem to think. You really should stop and think about what you're saying.
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If you want to argue, at least mail me, but stop putting our game down, it really does anger me.
Things are not as simple as you seem to think. You really should stop and think about what you're saying.
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Our strangle version of OLC? Have you any idea at all what you are saying? You are saying you are good at descriptions but not on our version of OLC. What do you want, Aj, an automatic description writing machine?I'm adept at it, but not with your strangle version of olc
If you want to argue, at least mail me, but stop putting our game down, it really does anger me.
Not sure where that ranking for levels came from Aj, but thats no system of ours.
Let me show you a bigger picture, the one I get to see from my viewpoint. I've immed at two muds, and let me tell you I'm 99.9% sure that the following happens everywhere.
When muds open, everyone wants to be imm, to be all powerful and create cool stuff, make things happen, be the mortals favorite imm! etc etc. Soon afterwards though what happens is this imm has had his fun, and then he disapears or logs on occasionaly when he feels he's up to a mob raid. The mob raid of course will be totally in his favour, and be only for this immortals pleasure. In turn, the mortals realise that this guy is a crazy nuthead, and isn't there to make the game fun for THEM.
Essentially both immortals and mortals should have fun in their work/playtime. The END result is the PLAYER, we are here to make a game that is enjoyable to play.
Thats why on most muds the first thing immortals do is building. Its not to make slaves of you, its to see if you a) are really going to stick with it, and b) when you invest time into a mud, as responsibility progresses you tend to keep giving out good results.
Most higher level immortals are doing many building projects, but we do have a lot of other issues we have to look into. So our time is split between building, looking at new implementing ideas, balance issues, projects etc etc.
Always having to ask someone before implementing something? Well guess what, its not to push our power on you we do the same thing amongst ourselves. Before the staff implements new things we post to see everyone's opinion and see if everything works. A lot of the time there are side effects, we then tweak and try again. When it comes to mobs, or anything that you want to implement as an immortal, we have to check if it fits in with the big picture, if it doesn't we're happy to help you out and see how your project could succeed or if we simply cannot implement it.
Creativity is not neccessarily a good thing on a mud, I've known plenty of imms who are "Creative", and sometimes what happens is that they are too creative which in turns makes their "creation" something that causes chaos, or is "overpowered" and shouldn't be in the game.
I could go on forever, but I think the main thing to consider is that we check forums quite often, and consider everything players propose to us. Its great to receive feedback, often times we DO have things in the works that we think would help the situations that you bring up. The problem is we do not have the resources to implement things as fast as most players would like. We're forced to make people go through this level process because we've had too many problems in the past. I won't say if you're not happy, make an imm and help out. Thats simply not the solution, you should only be an imm if you have the time to put in, and really want to do it
. Try to be patient, sometimes our priorities shift to go after whats the most important, but we still have our list to do and things are moving along.
Let me show you a bigger picture, the one I get to see from my viewpoint. I've immed at two muds, and let me tell you I'm 99.9% sure that the following happens everywhere.
When muds open, everyone wants to be imm, to be all powerful and create cool stuff, make things happen, be the mortals favorite imm! etc etc. Soon afterwards though what happens is this imm has had his fun, and then he disapears or logs on occasionaly when he feels he's up to a mob raid. The mob raid of course will be totally in his favour, and be only for this immortals pleasure. In turn, the mortals realise that this guy is a crazy nuthead, and isn't there to make the game fun for THEM.
Essentially both immortals and mortals should have fun in their work/playtime. The END result is the PLAYER, we are here to make a game that is enjoyable to play.
Thats why on most muds the first thing immortals do is building. Its not to make slaves of you, its to see if you a) are really going to stick with it, and b) when you invest time into a mud, as responsibility progresses you tend to keep giving out good results.
Most higher level immortals are doing many building projects, but we do have a lot of other issues we have to look into. So our time is split between building, looking at new implementing ideas, balance issues, projects etc etc.
Always having to ask someone before implementing something? Well guess what, its not to push our power on you we do the same thing amongst ourselves. Before the staff implements new things we post to see everyone's opinion and see if everything works. A lot of the time there are side effects, we then tweak and try again. When it comes to mobs, or anything that you want to implement as an immortal, we have to check if it fits in with the big picture, if it doesn't we're happy to help you out and see how your project could succeed or if we simply cannot implement it.
Creativity is not neccessarily a good thing on a mud, I've known plenty of imms who are "Creative", and sometimes what happens is that they are too creative which in turns makes their "creation" something that causes chaos, or is "overpowered" and shouldn't be in the game.
I could go on forever, but I think the main thing to consider is that we check forums quite often, and consider everything players propose to us. Its great to receive feedback, often times we DO have things in the works that we think would help the situations that you bring up. The problem is we do not have the resources to implement things as fast as most players would like. We're forced to make people go through this level process because we've had too many problems in the past. I won't say if you're not happy, make an imm and help out. Thats simply not the solution, you should only be an imm if you have the time to put in, and really want to do it
. Try to be patient, sometimes our priorities shift to go after whats the most important, but we still have our list to do and things are moving along.Ravir, I agree with you 100% about the raiding, I believe the raiding imm is there to create fun for the players and I tried my damndest to do this, but alas when you are new to immship as I was its not hard to accidentally load to many mobs favoring one side and load eq that shouldnt of been loaded.
I still have such fond memories of jonlin entering the assasin mob insta stabbing me and looting me 3 times in 1 hour. (sarcasm)
as for creativity, Im very creative, as you can see with my artwork, but I lack direction, without being pointed in the corret direction or a set of guidelines given I tend to get confused, frustrated, basically I lack organizational skills.
and last but not least, I really want to come add to the mud but atm dont have the resources, I have been mudding like crazy for the last 3 days because I have a temporary opportunity to be online, it wont last that long so of course I want to do what brings me the most pleasure, mudding and annoying galnor.
you know I love you Galnor, so chill and take me with a grain of salt.
I still have such fond memories of jonlin entering the assasin mob insta stabbing me and looting me 3 times in 1 hour. (sarcasm)
as for creativity, Im very creative, as you can see with my artwork, but I lack direction, without being pointed in the corret direction or a set of guidelines given I tend to get confused, frustrated, basically I lack organizational skills.
and last but not least, I really want to come add to the mud but atm dont have the resources, I have been mudding like crazy for the last 3 days because I have a temporary opportunity to be online, it wont last that long so of course I want to do what brings me the most pleasure, mudding and annoying galnor.
you know I love you Galnor, so chill and take me with a grain of salt.
I gave you direction. I told you specifically how I wanted those zones layed out, where they should border, and that's all you had to worry about. You did better than 90% of builders, but you took offense when we told you that copy/pasting descriptions is not good, just as I take offense when you say that our Online Creation system is strangled, even though I gave a reason and you didn't.as for creativity, Im very creative, as you can see with my artwork, but I lack direction, without being pointed in the corret direction or a set of guidelines given I tend to get confused, frustrated, basically I lack organizational skills.
You have to realize, you haven't seen things both ways. I've been the low level immortal and worked my way up, and I've been the one with the high spot. I have two views. Do you?
Just so you know, I'm not disliking you for this, I just think you should at least tell us how something is not its best instead of simply saying it's strangled. Otherwise, you're not being part of the solution.
What do you want, Aj, an automatic description writing machine?
YES YES YES PLEASE
anyway i can script
trigedit 1200
if %actor.name% = Otoan
say Otoan rocks i wanna be Otoan!
else
end
attach 1200 to galnor.
i did this! ask narg!
and 101's don't get medit anymore!
so...descript descript descript fix all of aj's errors. and also you can trigedit at 101.