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Zarth
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Yew Spears

Post by Zarth »

Are these supposed to be rare or not? Right now almost every human has one and I have 2 in my chest + 1 on me. They allow you to get 320+ defense and still bash 129 db prety good. Humans can also charge with them. I think the load on Yurian should be removed or they should be downed considerably.
Nicotine
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Post by Nicotine »

yew spear is 14 lbs last time i checked, and yes it does bash 129 db well. there's the first problem.

also, considering charge, can we please up the landing %? i bricked 4/5 charges while testing on SLEEPING pc's, and i've gone 0/20ish on SLEEPING trees. if not up land %, maybe reduce missed-charge-lag?
Zarth
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Post by Zarth »

As a sample of how sick this weapon is:
my set:
<worn around neck> a strange ruby necklace
<worn around neck> a strange ruby necklace
<worn on head> a rock colored shoufa
<worn about body> a murky black cloak
<worn on back> a backpack
<worn on body> a worn animal hide vest
<worn on arms> a pair of golden silk sleeves
<worn about waist> a swordsman's belt
<worn around wrist> an iron bracelet with ancient engravings
<worn around wrist> an iron bracelet with ancient engravings
<worn on hands> a pair of swordsman gloves
<worn on finger> a ring of chunky stone
<worn on finger> a ring of chunky stone
<wielded with two hands> a yew spear with a fire blackened tip
<worn on legs> a pair of dark cloth leggings
<worn on feet> a pair of ranger boots


You are a 18 year old trolloc.
Your mood is currently: Wimpy
Height 7 feet, 0 inches, Weight 36 pounds, Weight carried 1 lbs, Worn: 34 lbs.
Offensive Bonus: 173 Dodge Bonus: 129, Parry Bonus: 197
Your abilities are: Str: 19, Int: 13, Wis: 11, Dex: 19, Con: 18
Your armor absorbs 8% damage on average.
You are affected by:
NO QUIT
NOTICE


You are a 18 year old trolloc.
Your mood is currently: Brave
Height 7 feet, 0 inches, Weight 36 pounds, Weight carried 1 lbs, Worn: 34 lbs.
Offensive Bonus: 183 Dodge Bonus: 127, Parry Bonus: 182
Your abilities are: Str: 19, Int: 13, Wis: 11, Dex: 19, Con: 18
Your armor absorbs 8% damage on average.
You are affected by:
NO QUIT
NOTICE

In the past 40 minutes i was bashed 20/28 by the yew spears that Tobias and Rhaes were using. Right not the only weapon better is a heron of which there is 1 in the game. There was 2 yews in the game indeed I had some of mine deleted because there should only be 2! Now there is probably 10 or more. The power of this weapon would be fine if it was still only 2 in the game, but with 10+ in the game and the fact that they load regularly on a smob makes them insanely over powered. In time all non thief humans will use them unless Cannibal dies, because then 1 wil have a heron.
Zarth
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Post by Zarth »

You are a 18 year old trolloc.
Your mood is currently: Brave
Height 7 feet, 0 inches, Weight 36 pounds, Weight carried 1 lbs, Worn: 34 lbs.
Offensive Bonus: 183 Dodge Bonus: 127, Parry Bonus: 182
Your abilities are: Str: 19, Int: 13, Wis: 11, Dex: 19, Con: 18
Your armor absorbs 8% damage on average.
You are affected by:

HP:Healthy MV:Strong >
rem spear
You stop using a yew spear with a fire blackened tip.

HP:Healthy MV:Strong >
stat
You are a 18 year old trolloc.
Your mood is currently: Brave
Height 7 feet, 0 inches, Weight 36 pounds, Weight carried 16 lbs, Worn: 19 lbs.
Offensive Bonus: 10 Dodge Bonus: 126, Parry Bonus: 80
Your abilities are: Str: 19, Int: 13, Wis: 11, Dex: 19, Con: 18
Your armor absorbs 8% damage on average.
You are affected by:


Also of those 20/28 bashes on me 4 were me missing a bash then getting bashed which makes sense. 16/24 is still sick.
Aj
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Post by Aj »

I think the main problem is bash, I have yet dodged a bash in the last 3 days, an emmense axe has sat me down 100%.

But I do agree with zarth why were several yews taken out of game only to have even more load elsewhere?

side note, for some reason my channie is pulling 122 db in a perfect set with 18 dex and agility weave.
Rhollor
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Post by Rhollor »

Bash is being worked on and the load on Yurian was downed abit since everyone and their mother got one.
Aj
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Post by Aj »

thanks.
Guest

Post by Guest »

just know that i had one of the originals, before Yurian started loading them! mwahaha.
Lyr
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Post by Lyr »

Yeah, well mine is older, Erica ;). Dunno if mine is older than yours, Zarth, but I'm pretty sure it is. Bwahahaha! :P
Guest

Post by Guest »

Zarth with his yew spear bashes me better than a shimmering axe btw.
Zarth
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Post by Zarth »

More on the power of this weapon and dodge in general.

1) The yew spear is still sick got bashed like 8/12 or something today

2) Right now all dodge < 125 is the same as no dodge against the top end weapons. 130+ and you will start dodging some things. This is trivial for humans to obtain because of agility. It would make more sense to have 120-130 be what 130 is now and then 130+ just be even better.

3) Ob affects bash too much. This is probably why the yew spear is so good. On a horse in full dodge I think I would pull 190 ob brave. Events today showed this to me. Me and Arkoth killed Averi, but Scream died too so Averi got Scream's set. I saw Scream bashed near 100% by Rhaes's yew spear, yet when I was trying to bash Averi I missed all bashes. So either the 8 db from agility matters too much or OB matters too much or BOTH!!

4) My solution: give trolls +5 ob at all times and give Dreadlord the ability to agility for like 5 qps. Or just Fade me and dreadlord someone to agility me and I will show you what pain is!
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Post by Jerez »

and then i mindlessly spammed into a DT with screams set cause im a dumbass!
but scream deserved it for stabbing me so that was payback from my new char!

you are prolly right about that zarth
i heard they are reworking bash so each weapon can have a % landing value though, so hopefully that will be implemented soon
Scream
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Post by Scream »

grin, that was good fun today, got to respect you guys for hitting keep.

btw, did you get the gear we put back at fd?
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Post by Chase »

If you comment on horses giving humans ob, then dont forget to comment on how horses take away db too. And besides, I hardly ever see humans with agility except the channelers, and they need it because of their low hps = 1-2 bash rip.
Guest

Post by Guest »

i think the problem is shieldparry on 2 handed weapons
Zarth
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Post by Zarth »

For trollocs practicing shield parry has no effect when you have a 2 handed weapon now! At least with spears and I think lances, though someone told me staves still get sparry bonus.
Guest

Post by Guest »

Its the same way with humans. Only get extra parry when you practice shield parry with staves, nothing else.
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Post by Galnor »

Zarth wrote:For trollocs practicing shield parry has no effect when you have a 2 handed weapon now! At least with spears and I think lances, though someone told me staves still get sparry bonus.
Of course... When two hands are being used on a weapon, how is shield parry involved? It's more of a "weapon parry".
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Post by Jerez »

i do not think even staves get shield parry bonus anymore, i reset just a couple days ago and did not get extra parry from it.
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