Balance - Imms balancing...

Eltargrim · Post by **Eltargrim** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:15 pm

Does anyone else think that imms need to make smaller changes? there never seems to be any middle ground.

eg. Dagger obs, was very high hitting most things, got downed to very low, wont hit anything.

Moves.
Trolloc regen was increase to too much so that I don't have to conserve a thing, 50mvs a tick standing, regen to full in 4 ticks.
On top of this warhorse mvs were lowered so it can now move 23road rooms with notice off in 1 tick. Talk about going from one extreme to the other.

I logged off trolloc and thought I'd log on human to give them some pk... is no point though when they can just outrun me and run circles around me anyways. Logged off in disgust.

Nesyn · Post by **Nesyn** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:27 pm

I would have to say that the fact that there is so much top end eq in the game makes it very hard to balance things. If full sets of dodge weren't so common I think it would be fair to make them nearly unbashable, but since just about everyone has a full set they couldn't be made as fantastic as they should have been. It would be a lot easier to make things more balanced if a bunch of eq was removed from the game and given a low low chance of loading. This goes for abs weapons and dodge trinkets.

Nesyn · Post by **Nesyn** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:26 pm

And now that I think about it a little bit more, I think imms should stop reimbursing lost eq.

Lyr · Post by **Lyr** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:51 pm

Sounds like a very large step towards WotMUDism...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:06 pm

I think tis time to start anew, like do away with all teh old eq, take it from everyone purge ALL eq from the game and have everyone start anew. Full dodge should be rare not everyone and the family of 10 should have a set and 4 ons torage. it's beta what if people whine.

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:59 am

And it could not be truer foil. It is beta. Hence the reason alot of great gear is going around. You have to balance out the high end stuff as well as low end. And if noone can even get a full set, it wouldn't be able to be balanced. Personally I think more middle gear should be added. You have your basic crap set that every mob on the game loads, then you have top end sets. There is really no stepping blocks. It is sorta all or nothing. We are pretty much just beta testers. Helping to balance things out.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:54 am

and also have you ever tried to pk in second rate stuff? like say a yurian set. yea you might think you do ok but up against a basher you get sat down a lot. and abs imo is that way now shimmering hard to get mid stuff easy to get. you don't get shimmering unless you pk at least on ls.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:38 am

dont think I've ever got any shimmering stuff from pk. Maybe an axe or 2.

Nesyn · Post by **Nesyn** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:28 pm

If you know what you are doing you can pk naked, ive killed people in full sets naked with a radiant axe, ive killed people naked with silver daggers, ive also killed people with a naked channie but thats nothing special. What i'm trying to say is that before we can really balance bash and dodge the eq needs to be balanced. Just like abs weapons are being made more rare and less good, top end dodge should be made harder to get because right now like everyone I see is in a full set whether it is on dside or lside.

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:55 pm

First time I made legends I was in a mob kit. Rune sword, 50% abs.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:52 pm

It comes natural to you cannibal, you are the best in every way.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:29 pm

rune sword was also stupidly overpowered back then, heron with less obs and parry you could get solo.

Vurek · Post by **Vurek** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:39 am

Yes, i have noticed the inflation of equipment.

Honestly i pk just as damn good in a newb set with a dark handled(in my opinion much more fun) as i do in full sets with best daggers and the likes.

Eq is hella lot of infated. I mean a hella lot. Extremely inflated...

I think that is the most boring part of this game, in perfect sets it proves useless vs bash most of the time as everyone has it.

Yes i agree something should be done to fix it so we have middle sets, decent sets, whatever you call it.

Things should be changed to rare, but I have noticed that some ppl are so damn good at smobbing(i never smob personally) that they can just load up on eq b/c they have the spare time.

Perhaps smob loads should be downed, i konw rene loads pimp dodge at a very high %, other smobs do the exact same...

We are playing a good game that has eq inflation, its not very hard not to die

But something must be done as yall have previously said.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:01 am

imo nothing should be done with eq. we are going off topic but even so as eltargrim said at the beginning it goes from one extreme to another. i do not want that to happen to another part of this game. instead of downing everything to make it more like wotmud lets make do something different. yea i agree eq is easy to get. but that's a good thing. seriously. i like it when it's easy to get eq. that's one of the reasons i think wotmud doesn't have people. too hard for complete newbies to get good sh*t.