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A bunch of us have been talking this over and this seems kinda crazy how bad pk goes recently. Balance between bashers and dodgers is skewed horribly in dodge's favor. When I say dodge though, I mean mainly thieves. Yes, they can get bashed and die to a patty in two rounds, but can't everyone??

Number One: Pstrike is crazy. First it does ample damage, but you can time it between rounds. Next you can target people you aren't even on. Yes you can say BMs can do this too, but that cost 1500 qps, not just practices like anyone else can.

Number Two: Projectiles. This is way worse than pstrike. I had someone spam throw 3 knives at me in the time of one round from missed bash lag. I went from high beat to 5 hps, basically 90 dmg, in a round. Wow.

Number Three: Shield parry. This isn't bad at all. I am just adding it to the list for future purposes.

Number Four: Dodge in general. If you don't have a master or a unique/rare you may as well rent bc you are worthless in pk.

The combination of all these skills makes it so that thieves can stand toe to toe vs absers. Not only can thieves stab, but they can also hold their own in melee. Daggers do a ton of damage when coupled with attack. As I have stated on previous threads, a lion etched dagger plus attack easily does more damage than a heron. I am not saying one of these four in general or bad, but together they make thieves top.

Heres a log for an example. I am zerk as is Jule:

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You try to slash Someone's arms, but he parries the attack.

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A Bend in the Road
The road here travels north from Fal Dara and takes a bend to the west. The
northern gates of Fal Dara can be made out looming ominously to the south.
People can be seen traveling by way of wagon or horseback going in and out of
Fal Dara along with patrolling soldiers keeping a wairy eye out for anything
suspicious.
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You see very recent tracks of a black warhorse (ridden) leaving south.
You see very recent tracks of a white stallion (ridden) leaving west.
You see very recent tracks of Nicotine leaving south.
You see very recent tracks of Nyoga leaving south.
You see very recent tracks of Rawr leaving east.
A statue of Lighuxe the borderguard calmly riding a large stallion is here.
*Rawr* is here, fighting Guerrero!.
You feel the presence of someone nearby....
*Nyoga* is here, fighting Jule!.
Guerrero is here, fighting *Rawr*!, riding a black warhorse.
Heritage "The Big B" Benton is here, fighting *Jinn*!, riding a white stallion.
A black warhorse is standing here, being ridden by you.
Jule the Bannerman [Child of Light] is here, fighting *Nyoga*!, riding a black warhorse.
A gnarled ancient tree is here, towering towards the sky.
A gnarled ancient tree is here, towering towards the sky.

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s legs, but he dodges the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s arms, but he parries the attack.

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You do the best you can!

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You do the best you can!

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*Nyoga* looks at Jule.

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not
You look around less carefully.

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A gnarled ancient tree tickles *Rawr*'s arms as it hits him.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s legs, but he dodges the attack.
You try to slash Someone's legs, but he parries the attack.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's hands.

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not
You will now look around more carefully.

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* - *Rawr* sends Guerrero sprawling with a powerful bash!

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*Nyoga* avoids being bashed by Jule who loses its balance and falls!

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*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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% - A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s body, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* pierces your legs very hard.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's hands.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's body.

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* Your bash at *Nicotine* sends him sprawling!

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hamstring rawr
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* *Nyoga* yawns.

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- *Jinn* flails out at Heritage, who steps out of the way.

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% A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s head, but he parries the attack.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's head.
*Nyoga* tickles Jule's body as he pierces it.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's legs extremely hard.

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- *Nyoga* avoids being bashed by Jule who loses its balance and falls!

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*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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* You slash downwards with The Kingfisher Takes a Silverback, hamstringing *Rawr*!

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hamstring jinn
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* - *Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s feet, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s hands, but he dodges the attack.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's head.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's legs.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's shoulders.
*Nyoga* tickles Jule's body as he pierces it.

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% *Nicotine* breathes 'that's 1/1 chase '

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* Guerrero avoids being bashed by *Rawr* who loses his balance and falls!
Guerrero sends *Rawr* sprawling with a powerful bash!
You slash downwards with The Kingfisher Takes a Silverback, hamstringing *Jinn*!

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*Nyoga* avoids being bashed by Jule who loses its balance and falls!

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hamstring nyoga
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* Heritage performs The Kingfisher Takes a Silverback on *Jinn*, hamstringing *Jinn*!

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A gnarled ancient tree barely hits *Rawr*'s body.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s shoulders, but he dodges the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your shoulders, but misses.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your legs, but misses.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's arms.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's shoulders.
Heritage tries to blast *Jinn*'s hands, but misses.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's shoulders.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's legs.
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s hands extremely hard.

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- % - *Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.

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* You attempt to perform The Kingfisher Takes a Silverback on *Nyoga*, but he gets out of the way!

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You step to the side as *Nicotine* clumsily attempts to strike you.

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A gnarled ancient tree barely hits *Rawr*'s body.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s head, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your feet, but misses.
You try to slash *Nicotine*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's head.
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s body very hard.

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hamstring nyoga
*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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* *Nyoga* avoids being bashed by Jule who loses its balance and falls!

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- % *Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.
You step to the side as *Nicotine* clumsily attempts to strike you.

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s feet, but he dodges the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s legs, but he dodges the attack.
*Nicotine* pierces your feet very hard.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's arms.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's head.
*Nyoga* tries to pierce Jule's head, but misses.
*Nyoga* tries to pierce Jule's hands, but misses.
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s body.

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* You attempt to perform The Kingfisher Takes a Silverback on *Nyoga*, but he gets out of the way!

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hamstring
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* *Rawr* sends Guerrero sprawling with a powerful bash!

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- *Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.

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*Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.
*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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*Nyoga* avoids being bashed by Jule who loses its balance and falls!

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% A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s hands, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's shoulders.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's legs.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's hands.
*Nyoga* tickles Jule's body as he pierces it.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's head into bloody fragments!

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* You slash downwards with The Kingfisher Takes a Silverback, hamstringing *Nicotine*!

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hamstring nyoga
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* *Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.

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- A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s arms, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your legs, but misses.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your legs, but misses.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's arms.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's legs.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's feet.
*Nyoga* tickles Jule's body as he pierces it.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's hands into bloody fragments!

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% - *Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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*Nyoga* avoids being bashed by Jule who loses its balance and falls!

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* You slash downwards with The Kingfisher Takes a Silverback, hamstringing *Nyoga*!

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* *Jinn* flails out at Heritage, who steps out of the way.
Heritage looks at *Jinn*.

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*Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s body, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s arms, but he dodges the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your body, but misses.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's legs.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's legs.
*Nyoga* tickles Jule's body as he pierces it.
*Nyoga* barely pierces Jule's arms.

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- Jule narrates, '0/6 now'

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% - *Nyoga* hefts his shield and takes up a defensive stance.

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*Rawr* avoids being bashed by Guerrero who loses his balance and falls!
*Rawr* sends Guerrero sprawling with a powerful bash!

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* As *Nicotine* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

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You step to the side as *Nicotine* clumsily attempts to strike you.

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s hands, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s shoulders, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your hands, but misses.
*Nicotine* pierces your feet hard.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's body.

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Heritage sends *Jinn* sprawling with a powerful bash!

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Jule sends *Nyoga* sprawling with a powerful bash!

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narr they all hamstrung
You narrate, 'they all hamstrung'

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* - *Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s body, but he dodges the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree hits *Nyoga*'s head hard.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your body, but misses.
Heritage blasts *Jinn*'s legs into bloody fragments!
Jule hacks *Nyoga*'s body into bloody fragments!
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's legs very hard.
Heritage narrates, 'finally landed'

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% Jule narrates, 'good'

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* As *Nicotine* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

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You step to the side as *Nicotine* clumsily attempts to strike you.

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s body, but he dodges the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree hits *Nyoga*'s shoulders very hard.
*Nicotine* barely pierces your arms.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your arms, but misses.
Heritage tries to blast *Jinn*'s body, but misses.
Jule hacks *Nyoga*'s head into bloody fragments!

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* - % Guerrero avoids being bashed by *Rawr* who loses his balance and falls!
Guerrero sends *Rawr* sprawling with a powerful bash!

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- *Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.

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*Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

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A gnarled ancient tree hits *Rawr*'s legs.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s feet, but he dodges the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your head, but misses.
*Nicotine* pierces your body.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's shoulders.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's head.
*Nyoga* tries to pierce Jule's arms, but misses.
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s body hard.

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* Your bash at *Nicotine* sends him sprawling!

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*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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narr i beat now
You narrate, 'i beat now'

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Jule sends *Nyoga* sprawling with a powerful bash!

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*Jinn* flails out at Heritage, who steps out of the way.

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A gnarled ancient tree hits *Rawr*'s feet.
A gnarled ancient tree hits *Nyoga*'s legs very hard.
You try to slash *Nicotine*'s arms, but he dodges the attack.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's head.
*Jinn* tries to pierce Heritage's head, but misses.
Jule hacks *Nyoga*'s arms into bloody fragments!
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s legs extremely hard.
Jule narrates, 'stay i zerk'

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*Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.
*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s hands, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree hits *Nyoga*'s hands hard.
You slash *Nicotine*'s legs into bloody fragments!
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's feet.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's hands.
Jule hacks *Nyoga*'s head into bloody fragments!
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s body.

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* - Jule narrates, 'nyoga fleeing soon'

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% *Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.

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*Rawr* sends Guerrero sprawling with a powerful bash!

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- *Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s body, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s arms, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* pierces your feet.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your feet, but misses.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
Jule hacks *Nyoga*'s shoulders extremely hard.
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's legs.
*Nyoga* barely pierces Jule's arms.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's feet extremely hard.

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* As *Nicotine* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

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*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

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*Nyoga* hefts his shield and takes up a defensive stance.

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* *Jinn* flails out at Heritage, who steps out of the way.
You step to the side as *Nicotine* clumsily attempts to strike you.

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s body, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your feet, but misses.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your arms, but misses.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's head.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's body.

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- Edward narrates, 'anyone seen my gaer'

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% - Edward narrates, 'gear'

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* As *Nicotine* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

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*Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.

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*Nyoga* lowers his shield, becoming vulnerable once more.

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*Nyoga* avoids being bashed by Jule who loses its balance and falls!
*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s body, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s body, but he dodges the attack.
*Nicotine* barely pierces your body.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
*Jinn* pierces Heritage's hands.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's hands hard.

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* *Nyoga* hefts his shield and takes up a defensive stance.

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*Nyoga* lowers his shield, becoming vulnerable once more.

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- % Guerrero sends *Rawr* sprawling with a powerful bash!

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*Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.
A gnarled ancient tree hits *Rawr*'s head.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s feet, but he dodges the attack.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's arms.
Heritage tries to blast *Jinn*'s head, but misses.
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s body very hard.

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Heritage narrates, 'we on trees n fd ed'

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You step to the side as *Nicotine* clumsily attempts to strike you.

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- *Nyoga* hefts his shield and takes up a defensive stance.

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* As *Nicotine* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

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*Jinn* thrusts towards Heritage, scoring a hit with his weapon.

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* You step to the side as *Nicotine* clumsily attempts to strike you.
A gnarled ancient tree hits *Rawr*'s feet.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s body, but he dodges the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your head, but misses.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your feet, but misses.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's head.
*Jinn* tickles Heritage's body as he pierces him.
Guerrero tries to hack *Rawr*'s hands, but misses.

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Heritage sends *Jinn* sprawling with a powerful bash!
Edward narrates, 'i have no gear'

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- % Guerrero looks at *Rawr*.

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Jule is thrown off balance as *Nyoga*'s shield deflects its incoming bash.

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- *Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

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* Your bash at *Nicotine* sends him sprawling!

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A gnarled ancient tree hits *Rawr*'s head.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s hands, but he parries the attack.
You slash *Nicotine*'s arms into bloody fragments!
Heritage blasts *Jinn*'s body into bloody fragments!
*Nyoga* tries to pierce Jule's head, but misses.
*Nyoga* barely pierces Jule's arms.
*Rawr* slashes Guerrero's head very hard.
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s shoulders hard.

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They already seem stunned!

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Heritage narrates, 'find it'

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A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s body, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s arms, but he parries the attack.
You try to slash *Nicotine*'s body, but he parries the attack.
Heritage blasts *Jinn*'s waist into bloody fragments!
*Nyoga* pierces Jule's head.
*Nyoga* tickles Jule's body as he pierces it.

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Guerrero avoids being bashed by *Rawr* who loses his balance and falls!

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They already seem stunned!

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They already seem stunned!

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Guerrero sends *Rawr* sprawling with a powerful bash!

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They already seem stunned!

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*Nyoga* hefts his shield and takes up a defensive stance.

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Jule sends *Nyoga* sprawling with a powerful bash!
They already seem stunned!

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They already seem stunned!

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They already seem stunned!

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A gnarled ancient tree barely hits *Rawr*'s legs.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s body, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your head, but misses.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your hands, but misses.
You try to slash *Nicotine*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's arms.
Jule hacks *Nyoga*'s body into bloody fragments!
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s legs very hard.

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>

* Heritage sends *Jinn* sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Beaten MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
- % - A gnarled ancient tree barely hits *Rawr*'s body.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* pierces your body hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
Heritage blasts *Jinn*'s body into bloody fragments!
Jule hacks *Nyoga*'s legs into bloody fragments!
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s legs very hard.

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>

* As *Nicotine* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
Heritage narrates, 'we go tthis'

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
narr hurry guys nico eating me
*Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
You narrate, 'hurry guys nico eating me'

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
sc
You have 38(420) hit and 183(183) movement points.
You have scored 396079465 exp, 2928 total quest points
You need 603920534 exp to reach your next level.
You have been playing for 22 days and 12 hours.
You have gathered 611 Weave Points so far.
This ranks you as Chase Laurent (level 50)
You are in the following clans:
Borderguards : 2013 Quest Points, rank 10, 2700 Quest Points to rank.
Blademasters : 915 Quest Points, rank 7, 1000 Quest Points to rank.
You are riding a black warhorse.
Your mount is full of energy.
You are fighting Nicotine.

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
0
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Rawr*'s body, but he parries the attack.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s hands, but he parries the attack.
*Nicotine* pierces your head.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your body, but misses.
You try to slash *Nicotine*'s legs, but he parries the attack.
Heritage blasts *Jinn*'s legs into bloody fragments!
*Nyoga* barely pierces Jule's arms.

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>

* - *Nyoga* hefts his shield and takes up a defensive stance.

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
% Guerrero sends *Rawr* sprawling with a powerful bash!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
- *Nicotine*'s sudden attack hits you before you can dodge out of the way.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
A gnarled ancient tree barely hits *Rawr*'s body.
A gnarled ancient tree tries to hit *Nyoga*'s legs, but he dodges the attack.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your feet, but misses.
*Nicotine* tries to pierce your legs, but misses.
*Jinn* barely pierces Heritage's legs.
Guerrero hacks *Rawr*'s feet into bloody fragments!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>

* As *Nicotine* avoids your bash, you topple over and fall to the ground!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
*Jinn* avoids being bashed by Heritage who loses his balance and falls!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
Jule is thrown off balance as *Nyoga*'s shield deflects its incoming bash.
*Nyoga*'s shield arm contorts at a strange angle from the force of Jule's blow!

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
You have 18(420) hit and 183(183) movement points.
You have scored 396079465 exp, 2928 total quest points
You need 603920534 exp to reach your next level.
You have been playing for 22 days and 12 hours.
You have gathered 611 Weave Points so far.
This ranks you as Chase Laurent (level 50)
You are in the following clans:
Borderguards : 2013 Quest Points, rank 10, 2700 Quest Points to rank.
Blademasters : 915 Quest Points, rank 7, 1000 Quest Points to rank.
You are riding a black warhorse.
Your mount is full of energy.
You are fighting Nicotine.

HP:Critical MV:Fresh - Nicotine: Hurt>
*Jinn* flails out at Heritage, who steps out of the way.
The last thing you see is the weapon of *Nicotine* penetrating your throat.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!
Your fame has been diminished.

Yes, I started batt. But look at how Nicotine was able to break my 280 defense and pstrike me dead (200hps) while I was able to take him to hurt through my bashing. I know Im not the only one who says this so lets here some other basher's ideas.

Oh and btw, to whoever decided to full loot me after I returned everyone who died's eq today: congrats. I am now full looting everyone on DS. I return stuff and everyone else just craps on me for it.

Thats 4 bashers at trees getting soundly beaten by 3 thieves and a basher. In case you didn't realize...

Before you down dodge again... please please please keep in mind that dodging channeler have a much lower dexterity and con that thieves. And any change that affects all classes will lead to us getting raped.

In a perfect set with a unique weapon I still have less db/pb than basically any thief, and less pb than almost all warriors.

Why do I bring this up? Because I get bashed alot when I pk. Granted, most of the time I pk in top end dodge without a unique/rare weapon, sometimes with near top end trinks instead. But in that case I get eaten alive.

So remember, lower dex characters will see any drastic change you make A LOT MORE.

1) i don't think combo long blades should be bashing 142-144 db (which is what we all hard, having recived the agility weave from larmash)

3) you were all low hp while we were all high hp. I came out of that crit despite having 143 db, as you can see i got bashed over 50% of the time there. Perhaps i should post a log stating dodge should be upped after we almost lost an even numbers fight when we all went into it healthy against your team who was predominately batt/wound. I'd argue if we lost that there would be a problem.

2) using one isolated incident as a basis for making general claims is bad. Most of the time i get soundly owned by an abser. If you'd like i can post 5-6 logs of dieing in a bash from hurt with 2-3 on me and then make over arching statements that may not reflect the actual truth of a given situation.

I agree with Jinn. and as for the looting you (chase) referred to... you act as this is something only the DS does. I can assure you LS is just as bad. I too was fully looted earlier in that pk and didn't receive a stitch of it back. Actually the last two times i died i was fully looted. It is frustrating and pretty much kills PK, however this is where the mud is heading it seems.

in all seriousness, im a blademaster with a master weapon. i hamstringed jinn, and then still couldnt bash. 183 ob beefed up steel bound club and cant even win against a normal thief. if this log doesnt proof that something is jacked up then idk what will. if i had been a nonmaster basher with a voulge, no way in heck would i even have landed one bash. find a balance, this is not balance. i swear the pk on this mud is never balanced. it either favors bashers or it favors dodgers. there is an in between somewhere. the 50/50 ratio is what we are looking for.

Chase wrote:Number One: Pstrike is crazy. First it does ample damage, but you can time it between rounds. Next you can target people you aren't even on. Yes you can say BMs can do this too, but that cost 1500 qps, not just practices like anyone else can.

The targeting should have been fixed with the patch I submitted last night. Damage will be reviewed in due time.

Chase wrote:Number Two: Projectiles. This is way worse than pstrike. I had someone spam throw 3 knives at me in the time of one round from missed bash lag. I went from high beat to 5 hps, basically 90 dmg, in a round. Wow.

I can't defend this, as I haven't worked on throw at all or even used it for myself. This is in Koradin's hands until I get a chance to review it.

Chase wrote:Number Three: Shield parry. This isn't bad at all. I am just adding it to the list for future purposes.

Good idea, I'll make sure to break it soon so you can fill this in.

Chase wrote:Number Four: Dodge in general. If you don't have a master or a unique/rare you may as well rent bc you are worthless in pk.

I started reviewing weapons yesterday afternoon. Give me a few days and you should notice an improvement.

Chase wrote:But look at how Nicotine was able to break my 280 defense and pstrike me dead (200hps) while I was able to take him to hurt through my bashing.

Precise strike uses a combination of your dodge bonus and the chance of hitting the targeted body part to determine if you will avoid it. If I recall correctly, you are in a combo setup that relies primarily on parry, meaning it will probably land pretty often on you when high frequency body parts are targeted. If you don't want it to be as effective, try beefing up your dodge bonus.

Do not up bash. Do not up OB. Do not up damage. DO not change abs period.

Here's what happened there.

1: we were all healthy.

2: every last one of us had over 140 db because lamarsh had given us agility right before he died. (I had 144 db, heron belt + perfect set)

3: Heritage STILL bashed that set(a better than perfect db) over 50% of the time against me. And he wasn't serk either because he was fleeing around.

4: you should RARELY be able to bash that set with your weapon chase. Period. 16 lbs vs HIGHER than perfect db? Heritage tears that set up as it is.

5: Without agility even a plat sword (13.5 lbs) bashes my set 40ish percent of the time. (ask tiberius) Each bash even with one person on me does more damage than I can do to you in 10 rounds of kombat.

6: As SOON as you ran hamstring on me, jule landed almost every single bash(Missed 1 i think) and I very nearly died. when i first engaged on him he was wounded. He took me to beat before I could get him to batt. with a SEVENTEEN POUND WEAPON.


I seriously do not know why you guys whine so much. It's beginning to piss me the hell off. I have ZERO problems on my basher. I use an obsidian sword and More often than not I do just fine against perfect dodge. So sometimes I have to use a couple mobs, so what? I use them to my advantage when I have to. You guys all want your cake, and you want to eat it to. When someone mentions the fact that you do 45+ dmg to me per round when i'm bashed(no, i'm not making those numbers up at all) you spaz out and say how it's balanced. But when someone can actually KILL you all of you guys start crying about it. I don't get it.

DODGE IS FINE THE WAY IT IS. If you down it, every other class will become useless. less than 20 dex and dodge is near worthless. Abs is the supreme setup right now, and if you examine it closely, you'll see what I say to be the truth.

Dodge is DESIGNED to have a survivability rate. Abs is designed to be able to TAKE DAMAGE for longer amounts of time. That's the way it is. You bash me to the ground I die.

When that fight started, you had two tree mobs, and all of you were woundedish. All of us were healthy. And you still nearly won. That doesn't seem unbalanced to me.

Get over it already.

Fogel wrote:

Chase wrote:
Number Two: Projectiles. This is way worse than pstrike. I had someone spam throw 3 knives at me in the time of one round from missed bash lag. I went from high beat to 5 hps, basically 90 dmg, in a round. Wow.

I can't defend this, as I haven't worked on throw at all or even used it for myself. This is in Koradin's hands until I get a chance to review it.

1. Projectiles must be practiced, which takes away from other needed pracs like survival and track.

2. Projectiles don't give any parry, so when wielding them (especially if you regularly use a 2h weapon) you get a defense malus.

3. Projectiles must be smithed, which takes time and money (for the good ones).

4. Projectiles are throw away weapons in two forms. First, they have a chance of breaking every time you throw them. Second, if you hit your target the target now owns the projectile, and can throw it back at you to deal damage if they have it practiced. Or they can just hand it to a mob and it will be out of the game.

5. The timer it takes to throw a projectile is randomized, but it increases when you're engaged, and increases even more if you try to throw the projectile at a target when you're engaged on a different target. Because of these facts, throwing lots of projectiles in a short amount of time while fighting is lucky at best.

I could go on, but I need to head back to work. If anyone has any constructive suggestions for the projectile weapon class, please share them.

Thanks,
Kor

Kathryn, so basically you spent maybe a day collecting a full dodge set, which isnt hard. You act like its actually me in the wrong for thinking that 3000qps on this character should not atleast allow me to bash someone often. Are you high? Seriously try out bash and you will see how much of a joke your post is. I've tried dodge quite a bit. Besides you act like 17lbs is a joke. Its the best bashing weapon that is attainable. Steel bound club is rare and everything else is unique. WTF else is there to use?

Jinn, I will post a crapton of logs of thieves destroying absers. It happens daily. Going on to the fact that my blade bashes dodgers. Its 16.5lbs, .5 off of voulge. Yes, it should bash you. Lets again compare how hard one was to get for the other. Full dodge set - maybe a day. Master and BM's hamstring - quite a bit longer.

Koradin, so basically yes, it takes a while to get it set up correctly, but you can still spam 90+ dmg on a character in a round or so? Just make it take a little longer to throw please.

Asylum, I found your full set sitting in trapdoor. Im not sure how you all couldnt find it. Its not like we were leaving city or sitting fork to drop it with your group around. But seeing as how I got nothing back at all (including 4 scalps I had, wow thanks), I will be keeping it in chest

You are unreasonable chase. I'm done trying to break it down so you can see. May as well slam my head against the wall.


Imms, please make every weapon able to bash me even more often. So that instead of taking 250 dmg every 8 rounds, i'll take it every 2. I love that idea. Up all bashing weapons please. Massively. And down dodge some more. Cap db at like... 120 so they can never miss.

Chase wrote:Kathryn, so basically you spent maybe a day collecting a full dodge set, which isnt hard. You act like its actually me in the wrong for thinking that 3000qps on this character should not atleast allow me to bash someone often. Are you high?

Using that same argument I should never ever get bashed because I have a crapton of qps as well.

I am not messed up about it. like you said dodge is somewhat easy to get. although that is basic dodge. the trinks no much. still attainable but harder.

as for not finding it. If loot is taken out of a corpse and put behind a door. then most likely it was for a reason. The reason would not be so the other side can find it and reequip the fallen. if that was the reason it was put behind a door then why not leave where I died? Or in a place that would be accessible. but either way in the end it doesn't really matter. It just gives folks reason to complain and bicker.... which is always easier after a death.


I total agree about the scalps. they should NEVER be looted by the other side.

Kathryn try playing something other than your DS thief. I am borderline incredulous that you can't even see how dodge is raping absers. I don't think you have gone below wounded once in the past few days. Absers have a FULL set, since you like throwing that word around, yet you can kill them easily enough. I feel like I am slamming my head against the wall too. Half of DS thieves aren't remotely killable unless they get luckily bashed on a patty solo or they allow 5 people to sit there meleeing on them.

Evilina that has nothing to do with this. Stop trying to draw strings to you. It doesn't work. He was saying that he shouldn't get bashed by my weapon. I highlighted that it is heavier than normal lblades and I have hamstring. How would qps have anything to do with your db?

Chase wrote:Evilina that has nothing to do with this. Stop trying to draw strings to you.

So this is all about you? Last I checked you weren't the only player.

Here's a novel concept, stop creating pdws and whining about everything every time you die.

Evilina, you keep trying to make witty logical arguments but everyone sees right through them. You added nothing but just trying to get a shot in. Also, notice someone else made pretty much the exact same post about dodge at the exact same time? So a bunch of people see the same problem? But yea, you are right. Im totally upset that I died and this is totally about me when I am arguing for ABS. Oh wait, I am combo..

chase, i play plenty of chars besides my ds thief. your flaw #1.

I've also was batt/beat most of yesterday. And i've been beat/crit many many times in the past week. your flaw #2

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You act like its actually me in the wrong for thinking that 3000qps on this character should not atleast allow me to bash someone often. Are you high? Seriously try out bash and you will see how much of a joke your post is.
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Evilina that has nothing to do with this. Stop trying to draw strings to you. It doesn't work. He was saying that he shouldn't get bashed by my weapon. I highlighted that it is heavier than normal lblades and I have hamstring. How would qps have anything to do with your db?
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The first statement contradicts the second. Your logic flaw #3.

You said:
Half of DS thieves aren't remotely killable unless they get luckily bashed on a patty solo or they allow 5 people to sit there meleeing on them.

I get taken to beat/crit all the time. WITHOUT patty assistance. WITHOUT having 4-5 on me. every day this happens multiple times. So does nearly every other dodge thief that i know. your flawed argument/lie #4.

When I am on my abser versus a dodger, in a 1v1 fight, I have as much chance of winning as they do. I might miss 5-6 bashes in a row, but when i then land 2-3 its over for them. I have NO complaints about it at all. You, however, seem to constantly bitch and moan when you've died a couple times. Like a little baby who didn't get his way. Then you straighten up and are fine. Till you die another two times or so. It's called juvenile behavior, not imbalance Chase. If you compare my abser to your comboer chase, you STILL actually bash almost as much as I do, while being able to also take minimal damage because of your defense. Yet even though i'm taking damage every round on my abser, i'm still winning the fights. What's wrong with this picture here chase? I have 0 qps, much less '3000' since you like to flaunt that so much.

If you honestly want to have a valid argument, go abs. By your logic you, as a comboer, should be able to bash better than an average heavy weapon abser, and you should also be able to take extremely minimal damage because of your combo. You want your cake and you want to eat it too. Tell me how you're arguing for balance, and not your own personal upping?



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Im talking about abs dude. I have said nothing about combo. I only mentioned myself when Jinn mentioned that my master bashes well. Im not sure how this is suddenly me bitching and moaning about myself when I am more talking about absers. But whatever..

my abser has no problem beating the shit out of dodgers. And I only have a 17 lb weapon.

Chase wrote:Evilina, you keep trying to make witty logical arguments but everyone sees right through them.

So you consider logic as witicism?

Chase wrote:But yea, you are right. Im totally upset that I died and this is totally about me

Finally an honest and unbiased statement.

Here's more logical witticism.

recent pdws

Chase wrote:Im taking a break. I almost wrote this 5-6 times over the past week but this is the final straw. Theres no point in getting pissed over this game.

DS you are lame. Enjoy ganking nobody because you've turned this into Wotmud 2.0. Wps and qps dont matter that much. You all know who you are. Namely that group of 6+ running around FD. You aren't elite and awesome for legends/remorts/whatever because everyone knows how you got it. For instance Guerrero got eq and promptly got destroyed by you all. Congrats you are all awesome.

Chase wrote:Here is a reminder to all in Borderguard lands:


Remember the trolloc is the most fiendish and evil enemy there is. There is no reason to treat them as noble enemies as they do not pay us back in the same regard. For this reason all war must be total. Muster every person to kill even a solo trolloc.

Most of these trollocs will try to lure you into thinking they want an even fight, and then the trollocs who are not skilled at fighting at all will come down in masses when you are low. Be warned. No more mercy. Drown them with our numbers.

Chase wrote:Is it dead on this mud now? I was vs a human and then another troll showed up so I left so it would be even. As a troll I was vs a solo human and then as soon as I got crit I had another full one on me. Come on. Then I was 1 on 1 crit going in fd for a crit human and there were two others in there who chased me to gk.

Does nobody want solo pk anymore?

Chase wrote:To whom it may concern,

Please stop being a wp scavenger. Don't come out of your clanroom to come get in on the crit human that has wps. You add nothing to pk. Especially when you know its an even fight. This holds even more so when you come down when darkside already outnumbers lightside. I know you won't because god forbid you may die or have to get your own kills.

Thank you.

Very Sincerely,
Chase

Here's the state of pk.

Everything is fairly well balanced. There are a few bugs here and there, and a couple things that need to be looked at, but over all abs vs dodge vs combo is fairly well layered out.

The problem here is not having more power given to one player or another, but rather having skill as the defining factor. Bottom line is I'm not playing from a phone anymore like I was for a long time. I can actually move and do what needs to be done in pk. I'm not easy to kill when I don't want to be. That doesn't change the fact that I get bashed senseless more often than not, and it only takes a couple to get me in the danger level.

A lot of people have a lot of qps. Take Otar, for instance. I remember when he started. He had no skill. Even after master, he had almost no skill. But he was still getting qps. I wonder how? Now, he's finally gained his skill, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he was a complete n00b during the qp getting process(no offense otar, you know i like you.) So arguing and throwing qps into this isn't the way to go about it.

There aren't very many people out there who can take me 1v1 and kill me unless i drop my caution(except lamgwin maybe even though I hate him. He has nice skills.) How many times do I chase people when I have low beat/crit hps? Every day. I dont care about dying, I care about having fun. But when I do die, i dont scream to up this or down that. I acknowledge that its my own fault/aggressiveness that caused it. If I don't want to die, there's not very many people here that can change that 1v1. Not because i'm super power skilled, but because I have a competent knowledge of how the game works, and I use that as best I can. Take note that when I dont want to die, I dont. The only times i've died since I came with a computer were due to being led back into the group with 20 hps, chasing while i was crit(like i did with tibs, who destroyed me with a 13 lb sword), or getting bashed senseless with 4-5 on me at once. There isn't a SINGLE channie on this mud who can beat my channie 1v1 (except maybe obould).

Why am I saying all this? Am i saying i'm a super pker? No, not by any means. My point is, that with the delicate balance we have attained (finally) the defining factor is using all the knowledge to your advantage, rather than just saying 'i need this, and that.' If I, as a non master on all my alts, can go up against just about anyone 1v1 and come out even or with a win, then tell me this is REALLY about qps and not ability. What is going to make or break you in a fight isn't upping bash or downing dodge, or changing projectiles or fixing horses or adding an inn and bank in shadar logoth. It's about taking your knowledge of the game, and combining it with your skills and coming out on top.

As I said again, my abser has no issues with bash or abs at all. Perhaps you need to rethink the way you or anyone is doing things. No person should be able to stand 1v1 with another and expect to always win. That's what you are asking for in essence.

'Balance' isn't the issue here at all. It's knowledge applied to actions. I'm not the best pker out there by any means, but I know all of this well enough to allow me to get wins and survive when i need to. Its the way of life, its the way of this game.



You get frustrated when you miss a few bashes in a row. Who doesn't? I sure do. I get aggravated when I clumsy 3-4 stabs in a row, i did that just the other day. Does that mean stab landing needs to be upped? Just because frustration is caused by failing a few, doesn't mean that there is any imbalance there. This, I feel, is one of the most important points.

Evilina I wrote one of those on light boards warning LS because you and your groups would constantly gank bc you want wps/qps I guess. Whatever, if that is all you care about is some magical number on score then ok. The other few are from the past couple months when I was pissed to a seemingly lame action. I try not to lame others so when it happens to me I may overreact on occasion.

I am here just to pk. If someone beats me so be it they're better. Im glad you can spend that much time posting all that together though. No wonder you were able to farm QP mobs to get fade.

Im done with this thread though. Continue to slam me and not the issue if you want.

I went into that fight with 440 hit points. Was berserk the entire time.

Guerrero was full too