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Clarification?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:38 pm
by Lamgwin
Galnor wrote:2. Do not be rude to immortals. Period. If you disagree with something they do, mail a Staff member, and they will take care of it. It will get you nowhere to back talk after being caught doing something which you should not be doing. It certainly will not get you anywhere if you are rude.
What constitutes rudeness? Also, how will mailing a staff member work in regards to correcting another imm's mistake? In the sense that there are immortals who have blood relations, or are close friends. It would seem normal that they would be more concerned with protecting one's friendship than correcting small mistakes. For is a correction of a small mistake worth losing a friend?
Galnor wrote:If you are dealing with a Staff member, simply appologize and move on. I will not put up with players being rude to me. If you are rude, expect to be banned. We don't want to deal with it.
So, if a Staff member is being rude to us, or has done something we find unacceptable, we are supposed to apologize? We aren't allowed to voice our opinions on the matter then and there? We are being censored? Also, what happens if one of your Staff members are being rude to players and are instigating situations? Will you punish Staff members accordingly or is their word worth more?
Galnor wrote:3. I don't like it when people accuse someone of cheating to their face. If you believe this is the case, do not make a thread on the forums/switch characters and tell them off/make a big scene. If there is a problem, mail a Staff member, or get in touch in some other way. You will be the one finding yourself noshouted or worse if you make a scene over something which you are not sure of. Also, I do not want players being rude because they think that an immortal has done something wrong. If you think this is the case, mail the Staff. Simple as that.
Once again, what constitutes being rude? And if someone is cheating we can't even say hey, I know you're cheating, knock it off? We have to keep our mouths shut and be nice and censored?
Galnor wrote:4. . If I find that you lost n a PK battle and make a thread titled "Lame Gank", it will be deleted, and you will be banned from the forums. If you switch over crossrace after losing a match to tell off your opponants, expect to be zapped/banned.
Hurray, we've finally gotten to a rule that is straight forward and seems reasonable. I commend you for that!
Galnor wrote:We are not asking for much. Just follow the simple rules and you will be fine.
You're asking us to follow ambiguous definitions of words that aren't so simple, as well as enforcing censorship. Perhaps I'm wrong in what I got out of this post by you, which is why I'm asking in a -public- fashion. So everyone can be clear.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:59 pm
by Galnor
Once again, what constitutes being rude?
Whatever the enforcer decides it is. If you disagree should such a conflict arise, take it up with a higher level immortal. I'm not going to waste time trying to define every nook and cranny of a subjective term. I pray you're intelligent enough to figure out where the line is, and to stay well away from it.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:00 pm
by Lamgwin
How can one stay away from an imaginary line? Also, with that system it is so, so easily abused.

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:37 pm
by Nicotine
From reading this thread it sounds like you're picking a fight for the sake of picking a fight, Lamgwin.

I'm sure what all that bullshit means is "don't be a dick and if you have a problem with someone, talk to Galnor when he's on because he's running the show, and if you have a problem with Galnor, quit playing because he's keeping this alive".


Clear enough?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:51 pm
by Lamgwin
No, not clear. Being a dick can mean a plethora of different things. It's a subjective term, and rules should be stated as objectively as possible.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:08 am
by Gargul
don't agree, I don't like rules :P ^^

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:29 pm
by Myra
Obviously Lamgwin knows what Galnor is talking about, it's just Lamgwin making an argument because nobody is online for him to debate with.

Furthermore, in regards to people being family members/friends with people. We aren't part of the Staff for no reason, I'm sure we are capable of being relatively objective and you have your choice of Immortals to choose from. We aren't all related to someone who plays this game or close friends with the person you're potentially having problems with.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:23 pm
by Lamgwin
Subjective: existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought

How am I to know what one finds rude when they don't tell me what it is that they find rude? I can't read minds.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:31 pm
by Rhollor
If you are really that confused please PM someone to talk about the philosophy behind rudeness.