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Even though its only a week in, PK is already in dire straights. And heres the question that preoccupies my mind.

Just wondering why humans, even though having equivalent numbers, never ever pk outside of a damned city..

And DS echoes my sentiment.

Grow some balls LS..

I will tell you why:

1. You will call in a squad. Take earlier for example. I was trying to pk outside of fd, using scouts against lithium and zenrin. Suddenly four of you are on top of me. Why should I pk outside of a city if your gonna gank me?

2. Darkside usually comes south and hits humans when they busy. So we don't get the chance to group up, we have to run city to be able to get together. By that time, DS has killed usually half of our guys. So we can't find more outside of city since there are very few mobs outside of city that will actually help humans enough against numbers.

3. When does LS ever have numbers equal to DS? This past pk, it was pretty even numbers. Except we were all in crap. I'm not gonna show balls just so that an sblader can melee the crap since daggers have huge damage.

Why don't both sides work to fix pk, and we not blame it on eachother. We both did some pretty crappy stuff..

DS:
-Ganked me when I was trying to pk vs 2 outside city
-Killed Raelin when she was trying to get eq
-Newbie tried to pk me when I JUST let him go free
-Tried to stab me atleast 12 times over a period of 3 mins when I was obviously I was linkdead/afk
-etc

LS:
-Trapped Nicotine in Tower, partly bc I was pissed he kept trying to stab me like that when I was linkdead/afk
-Pked in cities, didnt have fun all around
-etc

How about DS stop ganking us constantly, and we will actually pk outside cities.

Replies.

1. Payback is a bitch, aint it?

2. Today, earlier in Fal Dara, Lithium stood in the city for the better part of 15 minutes, solo, while Raelin, Jaffa, and another tried to kill him.. In their own city, and failed, until the mobs took Lithium out in a round at gate. Me and him sat in Tar Valon while Jaffa, Jango, and Raelin all were around.. and they were in our eq from our earlier mob rips.. and they didnt hit us in Tar Valon. What the hell is that?

3.Today, very consistently you had the same or more people then us. And none of you fought outside of city unless you thought we were alone.

You were ganked because you had my and Zenrin's eq, and we were at HL at the time. At any rate, how is this any different from you, Darcon, Raelin, Abandon, and Jango killing me in Tower last night?

And neither I nor Zenrin knew Raelin was LD.. Raelin knows how to spam, which is evident by her getting into TV from FD before me or Lith.. she doesnt flee.. ever..

Osis wrote: 1. Payback is a canus, aint it?

Yea...except we didnt gank you to kill you. We did hit you SK to kill you once with more numbers, but DS has hit us at smobs too.

Osis wrote: 3.Today, very consistently you had the same or more people then us. And none of you fought outside of city unless you thought we were alone.

I don't know one time we had more than you guys. Except when we went in Tower to try and get Nicotine. Then we did have more, but we wanted to get Nico. Before that everytime you got on a human it was atleast 2 to 1. I don't know anything about the pk FD you had, but why pk them if they have more? Just trick them into chasing you north...

Because they don't leave their cities. Period.

I had both eq from legit pk from like..2-3 days ago. I don't see how its still your eq if you died a few days ago and lost it...

Its still my eq, and still Zenrin's eq because we worked our asses leveling and smobbing to get it, only to lose to it some schmucks that outnumbered us in spam doors.. We wanted it back.

I don't know anything about the pk FD you had, but why pk them if they have more? Just trick them into chasing you north...

And what Lith said.. they dont leave the cities. In fact, the dont even leave the Tower when its 2 on 2 in TV

oh for the love of narg stop arguing!!!

yes humans are pansies... more like unorganized. have logged onto human side to see many on and them not working together. if they were organized these "gankings" would not occur...

my death was a bit messed but like i said in another thread i think cities should be powerful anyways, and i went into a city and stayed there long enough to know that it was a risk, and the dice toss landed snake eyes. i lose.

i think one problem is the easy ability for trolls to go down south with no risk of losing moves for the most part. kills the expers and such, just interrupting. how is this for an idea:

make tar valon very powerful to the point that entering it and being engaged on a mob would lock the gates and basically end your trip to the bakery and send you home. instead have a much longer alternate route cutting around tar valon, say going southeast to east of caemlyn, where a run up would put you at great risk of running hag. stick bunch of tracking aggros in the zone so it isnt a safe haven to sit around and regen moves as well. make it risky.

would definitely seperate the expers from the pkers i believe. make tv the boundary from safe haven to enemy territory.

p.s. bickering about tactics will not resolve anything. people do what they want to do. both sides gank, both sides take loot they want, both sides use "lame" advantages.

Get Over It

I couldn't agree with you more. LS is pretty vulnerable as long as they are not in city. A roundabout raiding route would be awesome. You take the hard way around, but you can surprise the humans. Yet you also have to be wary and make it back out in time. Awesome idea.

Dire Straights is a great band, please don't bring them into this! 8)


Looking more into the accessed situation.

Seems both sides aren't happy with the other. As osis has said, it's not even been a week.

I just say let it be, times will change and that's just how it is.


Some contributing factors to LS presumably being "wimps" might be b/c:

1. Not enough players on to actively smob. Only have killed 3 smobs myself with the largest players I've seen on.

2. Pracs hurt us more, and I am a strong advocate of these practices, as they have been downed so severly, every little prac counts more than ever, and due to this thiefs have shitty ride(failing mounts making them worthless) and either that or absolutely terrible stab pracs. Same with any class except warriors(which there aren't alot of, seems thief is trend for both sides still)

3. Not many friendly mobs out of cities. I've been called down for requesting mobs N fd, seems I'm a total idiot for wanting that


Now, I have not played ds, so I can not begin to suggest reasons for their side and whatnot.

But, oh well, I'm not worried about pk at all. It will eventually get better, this shit just takes time sometimes

bs, seen many players on ls and enough to smob for sure.

no you are not an idiot for wanting mobs. im just tired of seeing you say it over and over again :p

cant say much on pracs seeing as mine are fairly lenient, but not stressless

eq is not a factor really. chase had my set and someone else had osis' and the problem still persisted. just get organized damnit!

today is the first day i've seen more than 5 on

and still there aren't more than 4 ppl lvl 30

This is a prime example of what I'm talking about.. Absolute refusal to fight outside of a city. Sartak was beat from him spamstabbing in TV, so is at patty.

Outside of Tar Valon
You are at the gates of Tar Valon, just outside the western gate of the city.
The sounds of the city easily reach you here and the Tar Valon road travels
south here, where it finally dissapears around a bend.
[ Exits: e s ]

HP:Scratched MV:Excellent >
p

*Darcon* has arrived from the east, riding a white stallion.

HP:Scratched MV:Excellent >
p
You try to pound *Darcon*'s arms, but he dodges the attack.

HP:Scratched MV:Excellent - Darcon: Healthy>
oYou do the best you can!

HP:Scratched MV:Excellent - Darcon: Healthy>
o
HP:Scratched MV:Excellent - Darcon: Healthy>

*
*Darcon* panics, and attempts to flee!

HP:Scratched MV:Excellent - Darcon: Healthy>

*Darcon* leaves south, riding a white stallion.

HP:Scratched MV:Excellent >
- close g
*Darcon* has arrived from the south, riding a white stallion.

HP:Scratched MV:Excellent >
close gate

*Darcon* leaves east, riding a white stallion.

Vurek wrote:today is the first day i've seen more than 5 on

a group of five tore me up fal dara road, ruining a trap i had setup for them. this is a perfect example of what can be accomplished by organization. even though it was raiden who headed the group, and i am still bitter about the fact that he refused to return my club due to a linkdead kill, i will give him that much for at least forming a bloody group.

I'm glad man. Notice how this is one day after I saw 5 on...?

They actually have lvls now too. I led newbie groups earlier too, a few of lvl 15+, but that didn't do shit against greater and higher lvled numbers.


It's a damn influx already, it goes both ways...

Dont blame me for stealing eq, cuase i havent taken a damn thing except boar skin gloves and a necklace, everything else i returned, ever time someone rips i even narr give all extras back. If i kill you, you can be sure that almost all you eq will be returned unless if i was grouped up where i had no desicion over it.

I also think pking in citys is dumb but when im out numbered an noone else is listening to me im not going to run out to make it a 1v4.

Zenrin[/quote]
a group of five tore me up fal dara road, ruining a trap i had setup for them. this is a perfect example of what can be accomplished by organization. even though it was raiden who headed the group, and i am still bitter about the fact that he refused to return my club due to a linkdead kill, i will give him that much for at least forming a bloody group.

Linkdead? did you loose connection during that?

ops. as you can see i need work on posting stuff

Jango wrote:Dont blame me for stealing eq, cuase i havent taken a d*** thing except boar skin gloves and a necklace, everything else i returned, ever time someone rips i even narr give all extras back. If i kill you, you can be sure that almost all you eq will be returned unless if i was grouped up where i had no desicion over it.

i was blaming raiden

Linkdead? did you loose connection during that?

no... that was a fair kill and i guess i overestimated my ability to absorb hits with my abs set from then...

i was linkdead when i was heading up gap from smobbing down south. was hugnry/thirsty and resting moves with notice on. link dropped for 20 minutes. log in, am dead. darcon left all at corpse, raiden took club and refused to return after darcon told him i was ld

just letting people know so they know not to return his gear

Sux when you die cuase of link dead. happen to me a couple times, when i get a phone call i get kicked off aol or it laggs real bad. I try my best to give back all extra eq back, or replace eq for what i took, just so who ever died will have something to work with till the reeq. Best way to keep pk alive

few months ago this whole situation of maybe ls being too pussy was completely reversed. PK CHANGES PEOPLE SOMETIMES IT'S TROLLS WHO ARE PUSSY SOMETIMES IT'S HUMANS.

maybe if you wouldnt always kill our horses if we are futher than gap?

few months ago this whole situation of maybe ls being too pussy was completely reversed. PK CHANGES PEOPLE SOMETIMES IT'S TROLLS WHO ARE PUSSY SOMETIMES IT'S HUMANS.

Theres no reason to step on your cap button, fool.

And the only time I remember trollocs being pussies were when we were getting fireballed every time we engaged for more then a two rounds.