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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:55 pm
by Evilina
Give it a go Galnor, in theory it sounds like a good idea but realistically it will only clarify things for those who want clarity and it will definitely not stop the complaining of certain player types.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:03 pm
by Lamgwin
what it does is it doesn't give people like nicotine any outs. he's an afk killer, and if someone has an afk tag then he knows it for certain and can't possibly argue at all that the person might actually be there.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:40 pm
by Evilina
I would make the afk flag room dependant as to avoid people feeling safe to afk in key pk zones i.e. gap, blight, n fd, n fm. Even if it's an emergency a person should still have a few seconds to spare to run into a city.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:54 pm
by Lamgwin
why? if you're comfortable killing someone afk why does it matter to you if their flag is on in gap or in fd?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:11 pm
by Evilina
It's not about feeling comfortable killing someone afk but about feeling comfortable afking somewhere you specifically should not and avoiding the entire argument of "I was flagged afk, even though I was logged on my human and in keep or logged on my troll and in fd". These examples are extremes but still viable.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:19 pm
by Lamgwin
then kill them if you don't believe that they're afk or think that they shouldn't be afk in that area. sounds to me that people who will kill people afk in certain situations don't want the baggage of being known afk killers?

if someone is afk, it doesn't matter where they are. they are not able to respond to the game and as such provide no meaningful resistance in pk. the purpose of pk is to have a fight versus a real person, if you enjoyed killing shit that can't respond you'd just kill mobs all day.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:41 pm
by Evilina
I personally avoid purposely killing those afk but with an afk flag I can already see certain people abusing it and claming afk to avoid a death, to idle out of a certain situation. I am not saying everyone will have such intentions but a few will and when they are called on it and killed they will use the AFK Card to rally supporters to their cause.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:51 pm
by Lamgwin
if someone is running around pking and then just stops and hits the afk flag, i doubt anyone would care if said person got killed. however, if said person was afk sitting gap at healthy and someone came and killled them from full health, then yeah, afk killing.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:10 pm
by Evilina
I agree with your scenario Lamgwin, in the end it's a matter of perspective and whether a player cares enough to not ruin another players fun by using lame tactics or only cares about themselves.

There are pro's and con's to both side of this argument but ultimately this is a decision for the administrative team to make.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:31 am
by Crunch
Is the guy that switched races to kill me for a unique when i narrated for help on ds really whining about whats fair?


Lamgwin, just quit... and FYI now that I know you are Kathryn that alt is fucked too.

re

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:16 pm
by Kathryn
wow what a pathetic attitude crunch. and i'm not lamgwin. get a life.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:00 pm
by Evilina
Galnor is Jack and Kathryn :P

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:06 pm
by Galnor
Evilina wrote:Galnor is Jack and Kathryn :P
And Jerez.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:31 pm
by Lamgwin
hey crunch, i hope to see you on the game so i can kill you, take your weapon, and then you'll quit for months again.

re

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:00 pm
by Kathryn
ha ha very funny. andeven if i were him, good luck killing me.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:28 am
by Alec
Lamgwin wrote:if you have no quit, you can't go anywhere that you can't not get stabbed at?
Unless things have changed, I can think of a large number of those rooms where you can be safe from stabs and have the no-quit flag.


Right now it takes what? 5 minutes of afk to void?

Any afk related flag should not kick into place in less than that amount of time. And if this flag prevents people from attacking you it will be heavily and easily abused by a lot of dbags who are just in it to be dbags.

Some of the people posting on this thread remind me of Ryalth on WoTmud who just tinfuls herself so when she is about to be killed she doesnt lose tps.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:50 am
by Lamgwin
i'm amazed by how many of you can't read. the afk flag doesn't keep anyone from attacking you, it just takes away nicotine and other's crap argument of "i didn't know if you were really afk."

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:14 pm
by Dimmu
Going AFK is a choice, with associtated risks. Either rent and be safe, or drop link and hope xxx notices the linkless flag. Anything else is childish whining.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:43 pm
by Lamgwin
interesting, if the doorbell rings, or the phone rings, or something happens in the place that i'm living, that's a choice? funny definition you have for choice.

also, going ld doesn't allow you to see who kills you ld. at least this way i'll know who kills afk, and who doesn't.

keep coming with the fail arguments.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:34 pm
by Avaine
You know Dimmu was saying that leaving the computer to answer the door/phone is a choice, stop twisting people's words around.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:44 pm
by Lamgwin
having the doorbell ring, or the phone ring, or someone coming home that needs your attention is just as out of your control as having your internet die on you.

maybe he's arguing that a game is more important than anything that pops up in your life when you're playing?