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I've complained many times about how Lamgwin should be banned.... Not only does her warrant people un justly, but he warrants tower-clanned... so we cant even rent without being killed.
He's also extremely rude, to put it mildly, insulting me because im gay...well It's about time there was a vote...

http://kinslayermud.org/forums/viewtopi ... =16&t=5091

when did you become gay?

I'm not playing much because I've too much work to do at the moment. Having said that the reason I walked away from Wot was because I didn't like all of the crap people would do or say to each other purely because they could hide behind the animonity of a character name.

Lamgwin's not alone in using this and I doubt anyone here can say they've not used it for their own gain.

lol there were 23 no votes to 16 yes votes and then crunch removed the poll. evilina is bipolar, what's your excuse?

I don't mean to derail and it's most probably just some bored player(s), but could something be done about Jack and the newly-started Beverlay? It might've been ok and cool or even funny at first but now it's getting old and spamful. I don't know if I'm the only one thinking this, most probably yes, but I'm just saying.

Besides that, me and Lamgwin aren't the best of friends, though I don't really hate him. But if he bothers you guys so much why don't you all just gank up on him?:P

@Blark

Trust me, we have done it in the past where we would all just alt around and kill every player he has by any means necessary. I think this guy just feeds off the attention though. Maybe he needs a pet or something irl, i dunno. The bottom line is we are just sick of his bullshit. A game is meant to be fun, and there is nothing fun about having to deal with abusive players.

yeah, they had to have koradin make battering rams in order to kill me afk in my clan room. they is badasses.

and once again, you guys can't come up with any legitimate, specific occurrences where i've abused other players. i always act in a way where there was a reason for me having done so, which is why you can't get me banned by all whining to the imms about how i'm soooooooo mean for not putting up with your guy's crap.

Make a couple more posts like that ^

That kind of attitude is really driving our point home.

Thanks

Specific event #1:

(circa January 2010)
Crunch in sharan abs and AoL heron pking against a few humans near FD pat. I narrate for Malaki to come help me out near FD patty as I was low hps and low moves and hungry. He hears my narrate and says he's coming.

30 seconds later *Lamgwin* shows up exactly where I told Malaki I was hiding out, kills and full loots.

Specific event #2:

(circa December 2009)
New player, Behemoth gets full looted looted after being ganked by Lamgwin and a few others. He goes to retrieve eq and is told to "fuck off" by lamgwin who then laughs at him and kills him naked. Behemoth quits.

Specific event #3:


(Circa April 2010)
Sitting in my clan room one day, Malaki logs on. You have been warranted by the Dhijn. Mob rip in clan room. Otar pardons me ( a fade) tells him to cease warranting, Malaki does not. Immortals intervene, spam warranting does not stop.

Specific event #4:

Barf warranted and kill in clan room by Malaki

Specific event #5:

(circa november 2009)
Stabbed by philosoraptor on stone road after killing Lamgwin. Full looted and rented, and he wonders why I attack that character each and every time I see it log on...

Specific event #6:

(circa November 2010)
Lamgwin has issues with player Robbie, uses alts to warrant and kill all of Robbies alts.

Specific event #7:

(Circa november 2010)
Lamgwin abuses Chase verbally after dying in pk (you cant chase as well as me, its YOUR fault so and so got away... so on and so forth, we have all heard these tyrades) Chase confides in me that he felt like quitting because of this behaviour going unchecked.

Specific event #8:

Kathryn logs on to try and stop the nonsense abuse toward player robbie, is told by Lamgwin that he is a complete pussy pker (read his signature on forums if you would like).


Anyone else care to add to this list? I'll add more events on as they come to me, but this is just a few off the top of my head.

Crunch wrote: Specific event #1:

(circa January 2010)
Crunch in sharan abs and AoL heron pking against a few humans near FD pat. I narrate for Malaki to come help me out near FD patty as I was low hps and low moves and hungry. He hears my narrate and says he's coming.

30 seconds later *Lamgwin* shows up exactly where I told Malaki I was hiding out, kills and full loots.

You had logged on Jule when I was critical from darkside pk and killed me in Agelmar, taking my gear and putting it on Crunch. If anything, I'm simply guilty of treating you the way you treated me.

Crunch wrote:Specific event #2:

(circa December 2009)
New player, Behemoth gets full looted looted after being ganked by Lamgwin and a few others. He goes to retrieve eq and is told to "fuck off" by lamgwin who then laughs at him and kills him naked. Behemoth quits.

Ah yes, your friend from wotmud or maybe irl that you recruited to play this game, and had him engage in the personal feud you have with me. You forgot to mention that I had been full looted and was pking in a sub-par set of gear, so I looted his kit because it was better. And as per the rules of Kinslayer, there is absolutely nothing wrong with full looting whatsoever. This is really quite laughable if this is supposed to be a case of abuse.

Crunch wrote:Specific event #3:


(Circa April 2010)
Sitting in my clan room one day, Malaki logs on. You have been warranted by the Dhijn. Mob rip in clan room. Otar pardons me ( a fade) tells him to cease warranting, Malaki does not. Immortals intervene, spam warranting does not stop.

Ah yes, you forgot about threatening Malaki to not log on darkside and if I left my clan room you would kill me. Warranting someone for threatening his life is surely bad/wrong/a case of abuse. You can still exit clan rooms when warranted, so you dying was simply a case of you not knowing that I guess, or the Ghob clan room being messed up. Otar is your friend, I'm not going to listen to someone who is simply backing up his bff because of said friendship.

Crunch wrote:Specific event #4:

Barf warranted and kill in clan room by Malaki

What? When did this ever happen? You can't even warrant people in your own clan...

Crunch wrote:Specific event #5:

(circa november 2009)
Stabbed by philosoraptor on stone road after killing Lamgwin. Full looted and rented, and he wonders why I attack that character each and every time I see it log on...

Ah yes, once again. You listening to narrates on Crunch and then switching to Jule when I'm critical from pk and same siding me, then putting said gear on Crunch like you've done many times has nothing to do with -Bebop- stabbing you and taking his set back. You attacked Philosoraptor the other day for no reason, congratulations.

Crunch wrote:Specific event #6:

(circa November 2010)
Lamgwin has issues with player Robbie, uses alts to warrant and kill all of Robbies alts.

Should I continue?

Ah, fun. Robby was on his male channeler alt (I didn't even know he was the same person at the time) and I jokingly narrated that he was going to get a warrant for being a male channeler since he was narrating from the dark during pk (this mud's roleplay thus far has been not to warrant male channelers, so I thought it was an obvious joke). He then gets all upset and starts to threaten to kill Lamgwin, which resulted in him receiving a warrant. Fast forward a few days and Robby takes a full set off of Lamgwin when he died to trollocs, and when Lamgwin was naked/critical looking for his gear, Robby comes and murders him. So now Robby has a permanent warrant as well ( I had warranted him previously for taking Rhilor off of a trolloc when that trolloc had just taken it off Lamgwin the same day, not a few hours before). Fogel pardoned Robby due to Valon not having a warranting procedure, and told me we had to have a procedure in place before the warrant could stick. So we made a procedure, and the warrant stuck. Add on the fact that Robby has killed Lamgwin when he's naked/critical, killed Jack in Fal Dara and Fal Moran, took Lamgwin's full kit same side, etc. He's keeping his warrant.

So then we can go to his other alt on darkside, who asked Barf to clan him so he could murder me in my clan room. He got a warrant for that one too. It's pretty simple really Crunch, if he wasn't murdering or trying to murder my alts his alts wouldn't be warranted. He then goes on to take Harry's gear after he died to a bash in Murash, when he was on Robby, and then tried to stab Harry at the south gate of Gatekeep. Don't be surprised if Robby is declanned from the Borderguards shortly.

You see, Crunch, you've been guilty of doing dick moves to me during this whole time. If I recall correctly, you didn't like the way I pked, which started all of your logging on Jule to kill me when I'm critical routine, which in turn resulted with me treating you in kind. I'm not like your friends on here Crunch, if you treat me badly, I'm going to hit back. Your fear tactics work on the timid, but I'm willing to retaliate. Your diatribes against me try to paint me as this horrible person who abuses people for no reason, simply because he enjoys the suffering of others. Just like I'm not timid, I'm not illogical. I can see through the plans that people like yourself and Robby try to hatch in order to make me quit and or ruin my characters. I'm better at this than both of you, and this can be seen by how you're the one who always ends up quitting after you've failed at sabotaging me on this game. So you can keep trying to sabotage me, and keep failing at it, or you can knock it off and just play the game. But I don't think you're capable of just playing the game, you get too emotionally attached to your gear and to your delusions of self grandeur. You can't stand that I always come out on top. Your tactics that have worked on other people haven't worked on me, you're frustrated, you've resorted to making a stupid poll on the forums as if that's actually got a chance of having the Staff ban me for abuse. Knock it off Crunch, stop trying so hard to ruin me on this game, it isn't going to work. I'm not as emotionally wound up in this game as you, so I'm able to defend myself and act in ways which don't break the rules. You may be able to manipulate people's opinions of me, but I've always reacted to the things you've done. I haven't initiated, I always have the self-defense rationale. And because of this, you won't get me kicked off this mud, and you won't make me quit. I'm not like your sheep on darkside who mimic your opinions and views.

You added these after I posted, so here goes.

Crunch wrote: Specific event #7:

(Circa november 2010)
Lamgwin abuses Chase verbally after dying in pk (you cant chase as well as me, its YOUR fault so and so got away... so on and so forth, we have all heard these tyrades) Chase confides in me that he felt like quitting because of this behaviour going unchecked.

The animosity towards Chase, and that has been mutual back towards me for a while now (meaning he's tried to insult me and say hurtful things to me as well, it's not one-sided like you try to make it appear), I think is a result of playful banter turning into serious blows between the two of us. I think that as of the last few days we have a better understanding of how we actually feel towards one another, but yeah, it's the classic what started off as play wrestling turned into a real fist fight type of situation. If Chase feels differently about this, he is free to talk to me about it.

Crunch wrote:Specific event #8:

Kathryn logs on to try and stop the nonsense abuse toward player robbie, is told by Lamgwin that he is a complete pussy pker (read his signature on forums if you would like).

Hah, so Kathryn gets on to help the Robby/Crunch crusade and I thwarted her stupid attempts of trying to mess with Lamgwin as well. The quote in my signature is there because I never once called her a pussy in that conversation, she just randomly brought it up and I found it hilarious. Because this means that my past comments about how he's a conservative pker has really bothered him, otherwise why would he bring it up out of the blue?

And for Kathryn I'm a bit confused by his actions. It appears he joins these crusades that are started by people like yourself or Evilina, and then once the crusades get thwarted, he goes and acts normally for a bit, almost trying to distance himself from what happened previously, only to join the next crusade when it inevitably starts again. Kathryn is a bit confusing, I would like to think he didn't get that seriously upset at me calling him a conservative pker.

Funny, because at the time of example #1 Jule was a FC statter. Also, the immortals probably still have the correspondaence from this.

#2, that's great you think it laughable that you drove a player to quit.

#3, it hasnt been until recently that I've told you not to bother logging on DS, also Crunch outranks Malaki by a lot

#5, everyone here knows me too well to believe that for a second.

Summary: don't lie to defend your actions. Be a man and take responisbility for what you've done.

Crunch wrote:
#2, that's great you think it laughable that you drove a player to quit.

Here you go again, I told you I'm not illogical. I said that you think full looting is a case of abuse is laughable, not driving away new players is laughable. Keep trying to use straw man arguments, it won't work on rational people.

Crunch wrote:#3, it hasnt been until recently that I've told you not to bother logging on DS, also Crunch outranks Malaki by a lot

Nope, you pulled the same shit the last time you tried to ruin my characters and make me quit. You were being such a ginormous douche at the time that even Evilina turned on you and was willing to try to declan you from Ghob'hlin. You thinking that you're such a badass you can tell someone they can't play a side is hilarious, keep trying to play the big school yard bully, I'm not afraid of insignificant, power-hungry jerks like yourself.

Crunch wrote:#5, everyone here knows me too well to believe that for a second.

Nah, you always begin to lose support when you keep becoming more and more obsessed with trying to get me in trouble and people can see that it's just some personal bullshit. That's when you always end up quitting, when the people who previously tried to help you realize that you're just being crazy again.

Woahh definitely didn't say I was thinking about quiting because of Fagwin, just said he was annoying. Then I realized I can just type ignore Lamgwin like EVERYONE who is annoyed by him SHOULD do and this problem is solved. This thread was my half-hearted idea for a joke that I told Crunch. Nothing Lamgwin has done is even remotely ban-able. If anything, I just wish imms would no shout him if he talks crap to newbies, as this is the only time where he is attacking someone who is helpless.

Is he annoying at times.. well mainly all the time? Yes. But oh well.

I also remember you going and getting on a level 1 and taking the gear out of my corpse, or gear that was left for me on the ground, and renting and then transferring it to Crunch, and this happened several times.

And lol, when the hell have I done shit to newbies other than Crunch's friends who get involved in helping him do stupid shit to me?

I don't join crusades. I was informed of a certain situation by multiple people and came on to actually see if I could sort it out. I took no sides, and certainly did not say Robby was correct. I was inclined to attempt to help Robby, until he proved himself to be a total idiot about the whole thing. At that point I simply stopped any attempt at helping him, as he did nothing but prove he really probably did deserve the warrant, especially with his comments.

I don't jump on anyone's bandwagon. I started my own hate on Lamgwin club, and I'm the only member. Let everyone else jump on everyone else's hater train.

And on a side note, Lamgwin, you started off that conversation on tells with me by saying 'listen up you stupid fucking pussy', when i was actually attempting to be reasonable with you on tells and find out what happened. That's where my remark came from. I had never said anything ill towards you in that whole topic, until that point.

You're going to try to tear this apart anyway so I'm not even going to bother continuing this pointless conversation with you. As always you feel you're never wrong, so I'm going to be content in letting you feel that way.

bump

I don't even remember saying "I want to get beverlaid" .....

if it sounds rapist then you have said it.

Why has this never happened??

Cause Beverlae doesn't like you?

I was refering to sitebanning Lamgwin. Beverlae was the one claiming I said I got Beverlaid or whatever.

Why should he be banned? Cause he excels at trolling and knows how to draw extreme emotion out of a player, he merely reacts once someone has been drawn in emotionally and commits to an act of aggression thus making you look bad and not him.

When he was a youngster he was blatantly abusive on many levels but that's been years and years ago, now he's a smart, highly educated guy who finds entertainment in drawing extreme emotion out of unstable players.

I do the exact same thing but more aggressively i.e. my pwipse post, my remove remorts comments.

He taught me well but mainly he taught me how to not give a shit about a text based game or the morons on it.

P.S. Least he didn't get banned from wot for being a sexual Predator.

Galnor wrote:I think Tyson is a scumbag.

Clearly you've never been Beverlaid.