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Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:41 pm
by Otar
Lamgwin wrote:would you mind explaining to me how you bash more than evilina when you both bash? and would you explain to me why it's a good idea to have hard coded bonuses for a handful of players for the purpose of "off-setting link issues"? should hard coded bonuses be used to offset player error, or their link error? if so, why do fades get this specific hard coded type of bonus while no other clan gets anything similar to it? you have to look at the implications of your argument.

I always bash, Evil is often set up as a non basher. I never said or hinted at the point of fear being to offset link issues, I stated that half the time it goes off it simply balances because of my bad link. They're different, tard.
As for "implications" I don't type assuming that the reader is a tard and can barely understand English. Restated, I don't think: "how would a tard interpret this?" Since I assumed that you (the reader) is not a tard. I guess I was wrong, from now on I'll talk like I'm talking to a tard socialist.

I can still say tard, right? I really don't want to have to type petard instead of tard, it's a lot more work. Flag instead of fag is ok, that's only 1 additional letter, but 2 is waaaaay too much.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:45 pm
by Evilina
Cory have you ever considered not attacking people and just try to be friendly?

dealing with issues in a constructive manner encourages positive changes as opposed to simply stating this or that is op, can you provide logs of a minimum of 100 examples to provide evidence as to whether your statement is a fact or just another opinion.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:47 pm
by Otar
Deleted, turns out Evil's post was actually directed at Lamgwin. You could have stated that when you first posted it! Kinda killed a good joke, lol.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:02 am
by Otar
For the record, don't look into anything I post for a deeper meaning. You will only twist what I wrote. I write plainly. Assume that I am a robot and am incapable of emotion and hidden meanings. There is in what I type only what I type, no bs, nothing that is not plainly stated.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:09 am
by Lamgwin
Otar wrote:I understand that the mud isn't balanced according to my link. .....

When you take that into consideration and look at it on a game-wide scale you will see that it is actually a small bonus, and is almost as likely to balance the game as tip it in the favor of the Fade.
Um, right here you justify a hard coded balance because it "balances" your poor link. Implications means that if you want to use that type of logic/reasoning for your bonus, you then have to hold to the same standard so as to not contradict yourself. This means that I can then ask for a bonus to make up for one of my weaknesses. Is this the type of system you want?

And what are you even talking about with the tard and fag thing, I was fucking with Galnor to try and get him to allow the post that he had deleted. All that it said basically was that evilina is a rock horading retardfuck. I didn't see how that term was any worse than fag, or other terms that are allowed.

Anyways, you clowns don't even know what socialism is. It isn't even something that I'm for if you go by the strict definition of it. I am, however, for the social democracies in the Scandinavian countries which have a nice blend of capitalism with societal benefits, like a year of maternity and paternity leave when having a child, or having college level education paid for (or at least very cheap). Forgive me for wanting people to be able to live their lives in relative comfort, not having to worry about such things as being able to spend time with their newborn, allocating resources for their education, or their health and actually being able to enjoy the little things in life without the huge stresses always hanging overhead.

Ah yes, I'm such a bad person for wanting actual people to benefit from economic markets, instead of a few giant corporations and their founders. How silly of me to realize that the talents and abilities of people are not things that are chosen by themselves. I surely did not choose my intellectual level, or my personality, or my work ethic, nor my parents, my country, my state, my city, my school district, or any of these things. I'm capable of imagining what life would be like if I were not born in a comfortable, white suburban family, and actually grew up with parents who didn't care about my education, or parents that did drugs and didn't care about what I did. And because of this ability to conceptualize what life would possibly be like if I had been born into different circumstances, with a different set of genes, which would in turn change my intellectual level, personality, etc. I'm able to have a bit of compassion for the average man. Even for people such as yourself and Nyoga, who think that calling me a socialist fag is hilarious and some type of great insult, I would like to see people like you benefit from having a life with less uncertainty and stress.

And while yes, I could come off as nicer on these forums and be more considerate in my word choice and phrasing when pointing out the mistakes in your guy's various posts, I have a short temper for such behavior. But, as I've already stated, having a short temper is not something I picked, but merely something ingrained in me before I was even consciously aware of it. And while this doesn't excuse such behavior, unfortunately drivel tends to bring on drivel, and I fall victim to resorting to the same type of petty name calling on the forums as others. My patience with posting in the manner I have in this post and then being met with posts such as "lol socialist fag" can only last so long.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:16 am
by Evilina
Our sense of humor are much different Lamgwin, what I consider funny you do not and vice versa. Might I suggest since neither of us is going away any time soon that we try and work together as to the balance issues and refrain from personal attacks and the name calling which admittedly you do better than me, I didn't have the opportunity of going to a prestigious university thus I don't have the education you do.

Don't you get tired of the hate or do you thrive on it?

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:20 am
by Otar
I was not justifying the bonus because it offsets my crappy link. I was stating that you bitching about fear being op is silly, me bringing up my link was to prove that fear being op is silly. I stated something and backed it up with reason. Thinking that I meant something different from what I typed is silly. If I meant something different than what I typed I would have typed something different. I was not stating at all that the bonus is there to help with my crappy link. Just because it offsets my crappy link doesn't mean that's why it's in place. It's in place because I got 1500 fucking qps and remorted. Dumbass, you can't possibly seriously think that I was stating the bonus is there to offset my crappy link. I refuse to accept that you're being serious right now. I simply don't believe that you're that fucking stupid.

As for the tard and fag thing Foogel asked me to stop using fag, because someone was offended by its use and asked for repercussions for the users of the word. I was warned, and stopped using the word fag as an insult. I asked if I could still use tard because I thought asking that would be a funny joke.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:41 am
by Lamgwin
Otar, in communicating there are constant implicit messages being put out from the person doing the communicating. These can come through in a variety of ways, such as: body language, word choice, inference, implied premises or values, etc. These things happen constantly and many people are not aware of themselves even doing it, or don't even notice other people doing it. Simply because you may not notice such things, does not mean that implied meanings in your posts are not being broadcast. Just as a quick and easy example, let's take the word socialist. When you call me a socialist you don't really mean that I want to have public control of resources (instead of private corporations owning land, water, food, metals, minerals, etc). What that word implies in your post is that I'm un-american, I don't like freedom, I love communists and Nazis, I'm a pussy, I really want a girnomous government to control my life completely, etc. So as you can see, one word which has a specific definition can actually take on the meaning of several different concepts and ideas, be they related or not. If this isn't something that you've noticed before, or if you don't have a natural inclination to noticing such things, I could see how you think that I'm joking. But, a large part of communication comes from implication and inference, not from the specific literal definitions of words (which is something I've taken advantage of many times, taking the literal meaning of things when you guys mean something else, you guys usually say I'm "twisting words")

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:02 am
by Otar
I'm aware of the implicit messages you refer to.

You're a fucktard, and you probably failed every science class you've ever taken because you can't comprehend the scientific process or scientific thought.

You remind me of Nathan Explosion in the episode Dethhealth of the show Metalocalypse.

"we're mostly water, and bleach is mostly water, therefore, we are bleach."

flag

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:05 am
by Solare
Point, Match Lamgwin...


PS: when did otar turn into this?

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:11 am
by Lamgwin
I just explained a concept, described how it works, gave an example, and showed you basically how to replicate it using other words and phrases. Isn't that, essentially, the scientific process in a nutshell?

And I can scan the 97% I got on this Chem test I took last week with a friendly "Hello Otar" written on it.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:19 am
by Otar
We both know that there's no fucking way I'll believe that you took the test. The last half of your last post = sarcasm fail.

It's fucking simple. Just because thing A has affect X doesn't mean thing A is in place so it will have affect X.

edited for grammar

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:29 am
by Lamgwin
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Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:32 am
by Lamgwin
The word you are looking for is effect, by the way. And I don't really even know what you are referring to specifically in my post.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:34 am
by Evilina
bump

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:56 am
by Lamgwin
Thanks for giving me material for my daily masturbation session. I brought my A-game on this thread.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:40 pm
by Ifrit
Sorry to burst your bubble, but if this is your A game.... umm wow.\

Here, let me grade you. I'll be fair.
- 10%: last week was not 2010
- 25% (pretty epic fail here):
Anyways, you clowns don't even know what socialism is
followed by:
When you call me a socialist you don't really mean that I want to have public control of resources (instead of private corporations owning land, water, food, metals, minerals, etc)
<--- That's communism, idjit

apparently you don't know what socialism is either.

Here's a quick search to help you out.
so┬Àcial┬Àism/╦ês┼ìSH╔Ö╦îliz╔Öm/
Noun: A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Hmm: 100% - 25% -10% = 65%, as far as i can tell you scored a solid C here. Better than an F i suppose. Congrats.

Some comments on today's class:

Man, didn't you learn from our last lesson: USE A FUCKING DICTIONARY BEFORE YOU POST SHIT ABOUT CONCEPTS YOU CLEARLY DONT UNDERSTAND.

Also, you should read this and ignore it Lamgwin, remember in our last lesson you tried to use your "logic" and it didn't work out so well... Just a pro tip.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:13 pm
by Lamgwin
1) Evilina bumped the thread, look at the post dates before our last posts.

2) Socialism has to do with means of production and ownership of natural resources. Communism has no private ownership and has no class structure.

3) Does it not get old being wrong so often?

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:18 am
by Evilina
bump

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:40 pm
by Crunch
This is silly, I've never found the fear issue to be noteworthy. This is just another case of Lamgwin upset that he's not the most over-bonused character on the block.

Re: fear increasing the length of bash timer

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:46 pm
by Nyoga
fades have the absolute best bonuses hands down.

it is known.